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Sep 29, 2010 5:30am EDT
mean lawrence o'donnell. the question is, did he know he was sitting down with a mad man? it's "way too early" for this. >>> good morning, i'm willie geist, this show is "way too early," a show that could not come up with an word at this early hour. awkward, uncomfortable. doesn't go far enough. i'm glad you're up watching on msnbc. listening live on sirius xm radio. shoot me an e-mail. let me know why you're awake. do what levi does and text the word awake. next 30 minutes will be the cram session. a lot to tell you about today, including an elaborate alleged terror plot against european cities foiled by intelligence agencies. plus, more awkward television. a lot of them this morning. as the well-known host of australia's top model makes it dramatic announcement of the winner. music played, tears of international fame dance in the winner's head. but, wait, there's a problem. a really big problem. we'll tell you about that in a moment. but first, let's get to the news live at 5:30 a.m. here at 30 rock in new york city. >>> a new nbc news "wall street journal" poll shedding light on
MSNBC
Sep 30, 2010 5:30am EDT
. >>> we'll huddle around the watercooler to watch lawrence o'donnell explain his line of questioning to lee rye johnston. he gets a major assist from katie couric. [ female announcer ] olay professional pro-x. sold out online in 17 minutes. beauty editors are raving. the clinical results are astounding. olay professional pro-x. read all about it at olayprofessional.com. >>> as you know, the saying goes, knowledge is power. and the more knowledge a student has, the more earning power he or she will have. tell your friends that college graduates earn an astounding 96% more than high school dropouts and 53% more than high school graduates. that's according to the national center for education statistics which said the pattern of higher earnings corresponding to higher education has held steady over the last decade. >>> all right. enough of the real news. let's huddle up around the watercooler. now just 282 hours until the official release of my book, "american freak show." the sands are just slipping through the hourglass so quickly. you can wait until october 12th or preorder on amazon. i bri
MSNBC
Sep 27, 2010 8:30am EDT
. >> 10:00 eastern time. lawrence o'donnell. >> i read "the new york times" story yesterday, lawrence. my question simple. how does an 84-year-old get up and do what you do at 10:00 every night? >> i will have in makeup for about 20 hours before, before i go live. >> that's exciting. >> do this show this morning so i think my energy curve is going to hit bottom around 9:30 tonight. >> before you go on the air. >> big story tonight. we are talking about it. breaking news while the president was interviewed. snooki rushed to the hospital for alcohol poisoning. we'll keep -- >> how could that possibly -- >> we'll keep you informed. >> what are you doing? >> snooki, not a resident of new jersey. so let's move from snooki to public education. what's your takeaway the t president? >> she is great on this issue. bill clinton, both george bushes and barack obama talks about education more passionately than any other issue. can he get republicans that don't want to work with him on anything work with him on this. >> john, it seems that this might be one issue of bipartisan agreement.
MSNBC
Sep 29, 2010 5:00am EDT
the party. >> be sure to join lawrence o'donnell each night as he rounds up the primetime lineup with the last word on the biggest issues and the mohs compelling stories of the day. that's the last word with lawrence o'donnell here on msnbc, the place for politics. >>> in the first line of division within the democratic party, 47 house democrats have broken ranks with the president on bush-era tax cuts on capital gains and dividends. they're calling for extension of the maximum rate on income. that rate expires at the end of the year. president obama wants to extend the rate for middle income homes, he wants to increase it for high earners. the increase would particularly hurt retirees. a vote on tax breaks is unlikely before congress adjourns this week to campaign ahead of midterm elections. >>> intelligence officials in europe have uncovered a plot for what's being called mumbai-style attacks of france and germany. just yesterday, the eiffel tower was evacuated following a bomb threat. according to one counterterrorism official, some recent missile strikes by unmanned u.s. dron
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2010 5:30am EDT
o'donnell's new show "the last word" lawrence asked the president what the situation in afghanistan would look like today if the administration had adopted biden's strategy of fewer troops. >> president obama is president of the united states. i told him i would give him my unvarnished opinion and back it up with the facts as i saw them. the president had the most thorough going review. the american people should read bob woodward's book, at the end of the book they'll see a president who was a leader, a president who approached problems in an analytical way and made sound decisions that everyone signed on to including joe biden. >> that's been the argument from the white house. no controversy here, just vigorous debate at the white house. joe biden also addressed the part of the book where biden reportedly called richard holbrooke "the most egotist cal bastard i ever met." >> it may not shock you that people talk about dixie just about they talking about my being too loquacious. they didn't say the end of the sentence. i told the president he's the best man for the job. he should h
MSNBC
Sep 14, 2010 9:00pm EDT
and lorenz o'donnell. >> keith olbermann and lawrence o'donnell and chris matthews all coming up in just a second. can you hold on for a moment before i come back to you? >> i'll just wait here. thanks for staying us with at home on what promises tock a very, very business election night. the last big night of primaries for this year's elections. tonight's the night we learn the final matchups. with news from new york, new hampshire, delaware, maryland, massachusetts, rhode island, wisconsin, and the district of columbia. will insurgent conservative movement candidates keep picking off the republican establishment? will the sharron angle and rand pauls of this election year have more company as candidates no one can quite believe keep winning major party nominations for major political office. >> you can't masturbate without lust. >> oh dear. tonight's results from the delaware senate primary with keith olbermann, chris matthews and lawrence o'donnell, made silver about the stats of what is likely to happen next in november. it's all ahead in this tonight's primary hour of "the rach
MSNBC
Sep 30, 2010 5:00am EDT
new book "obama's wars." last night on nbc "the last word with lawrence o'donnell" he asked him to wie in on what the white house has called a deliberative approach the president has taken in afghanistan. >> this is the conflict within obama, quite frankly. he's commander in chief. he knows and he committed himself in the campaign to make this the war we were going to pay attention to. but intellectually, he looks at the data, the intelligence on the afghan war and there's a lot of dreary, negative news. in fact, just back in may he came out of one of the monthly reviews, the top secret kind of assessments they make in the situation room of the white house and said, given this definition of the problem, i don't know how we come up with a solution. so this is a war that hangs in the balance. it's not clear where it's going. and this is the portrait of him unvarnished, unspun, detail after detail meeting db there are thousands of words where he's talking, where he's asking questions. you're absolutely right, it's different from bush. bush's meetings were essentially, my gut tells me we s
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2010 12:00am EDT
the next hour in which we shall celebrate the launch of lawrence o'donnell's new show which is tonight right after this hour. we shall celebrate the arrival of our new desk which inexplicably has something to do with the start of lawrence's new show with you i'm not sure what. i'm very excite body my new desk. we shall also celebrate the return of barack hussein obama. he is back in talking points just in case any republicans previous efforts to convince you he is secretly foreign did not work on you, they're going to give it one more shot. that's all to come over the course of the hour. >>> but we begin tonight by putting a giant asterisk on the well worn political truism that all politics is local. the big decision democrats had to make about this year's elections was whether or not they would try to run this year's elections as a national campaign, whether they were going to try to run as democrats versus republicans or whether they were going to try to block out everything happening at the national level and, instead, hope that each individual congressional and senate and governor'
MSNBC
Sep 22, 2010 2:00am EDT
practical details with msnbc's lawrence o'donnell. and "don't ask, don't tell" expert nathaniel frank. >>> and this jaw-dropping exchange between senator john mccain and a reporter. >> find out if someone -- i don't know if they are. they do not. they do not. they do not. you can say they are. >> that is the case, senator. >> major mike almy joins us live. >>> and the senator standing for reelection by write-in scores a sad own goal against her own campaign. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. >>> today in the united states senate, language in the defense authorization bill that would let the military "don't ask, don't tell" fell to defeat. senate republicans, in fact, took the historic step of filibustering the entire defense authorization bill in order to maintain the "don't ask, don't tell" policy. they would not even allow debate on the defense bill because it included that language to let the military repeal its own policy on keeping gay people out of the military. and so we don't have a bill to fund the military this year. at least so far. and the "don't ask, don't tell"
MSNBC
Sep 24, 2010 5:00pm EDT
breathing life back into the gop? charles writes -- lawrence o'donnell is host of "the last word," which debuts this coming monday at 10:00 p.m. eastern time and jonathan allen is with politico. jonathan, because the last word, i'm going to let somebody else get the first word. jonathan, charles kraut is saying they -- >> i think a lot of these people are disallusioned from the past. the kind of people who described themselves as conservative first. if you're a political strategist in the midterm election when most people don't vote, you take the energy of the tea party and hope for the best. at happens when political parts lose, that in the following ele, basically, the base is what energizes it. we saw it -- we've seen it happen inside of the democratic party before. we've seen it insisted republican party frankly multiple times. isn't this in many ways history repeating itself. >> yes, exactly the kind of energy that the democrats had in 2006 and then again in 2008 because they had something -- they had a regime to overthrow in the congress, and then you know in the white hous
MSNBC
Sep 15, 2010 2:00am EDT
chris matthews, host of "hardball." and lawrence o'donnell. the host of the soon to debut last word with lawrence o'donnell. thanks. i really appreciate it. let me ask you this. you think no question the republican party finds a by to fall in love with her and get behind her? >> they have to. i already saw a letter from the senate republican campaign committee. they've already gotten excited about her. they are going to do what they have to do. i think you pointed out rather correctly, you notice the fact that the defeated republican candidate didn't endorse her tonight. so that bit of fence mending has yet to be done and it may not be done. i would have been shocked if she had gotten 40% tonight. up until late today, in fact, well into the evening, the establishment types from delaware were saying, this isn't going to happen. this is a shattering upset. there is no doubt about it. nobody expected it. they were talking 60% for castle late this afternoon. they assumed they had her well in hand. and look what she did. >> lawrence, what is the end of mike castle's political career mean
MSNBC
Sep 30, 2010 1:00pm EDT
much of it till i took it apart >>> lawrence o'donnell hosts "the last word", he had pretty prevok tif interviews with a candidate named levi johnston. >> what's your position on ghoebal warming? >> there are man's activities that can be contributed to the issues that we're dealing with now with the impacts. >> no, i don't. >> you don't believe it's manmade? or you do believe it's manmade? >> i don't believe it's manmade. >> do you believe evolution have you been taught as an accepted scientific principle or one of theories. >> it should be taught as an accepted principle. >> you're kind of getting over my head on these things here. i don't really know how to answer that question. >> lawrence o'donnell, great to see you, congratulations on the new show. do you believe evolution should be taught as an accepted principle or one of several theories? >> one i was afraid of. you're going over my head on this stuff. >> you don't watch television, do you? >> i love that kid. he's honest and straight forward and he's not embarrassed. and look, i rescored his answers last night when i stack
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2010 10:00am EDT
with a backyard discussion in new mexico. last night the last word with lawrence o'donnell vice president joe biden talked about the high stakes for his party. >> a lot of democrats who might have been thinking about doing exactly what a lot of republicans did. not show up and vote in the primary. well, this is a wake-up call to democrats. we have to show up and we have to make our case and focus on the differences, not the personalities. >> nbc mike vukvukiera is in ne mexico. >> let's continue with what joe biden told lawrence o'donnell. the president also had an interview where he told some of these base democrats or reported to be apathetic. you know about the so-called enthusiasm gap. you cannot sit this one out. the message from the white house, it is time to stop all your sobbing and today the president continues on now with these backyard discussions. we're here in this setting in the land of enchantment outside of albuquerque, new mexico. this is the latest in a series of discussions. he gathers these people in backyards and most of these people are supporters of the ad
MSNBC
Sep 27, 2010 10:00am EDT
here on msnbc "last word with lawrence o'donnell" tonight 10:00 eastern. >> lawrence o'donnell adding msnbc host to his long list of accomplishments in washington and hollywood, and he joins us now. lawrence, i want to start with a question i posed to matthew dowd, former bush political adviser and it has to do with watching alan grayson, the democratic member of congress down there in a republican district. and i've been hearing from more and more democrats saying why aren't more democrats nationally channeling anger the way alan grayson does? >> it does seem to be working for him. but that is district by district judgment. it's also a personality issue. i mean a lot of the guys simply don't have that performance level in them if you want to call it that. and they don't actually feel that way. i mean, alan grayson, within the democratic party, makes some of the most extreme statements within the democratic party about the other side. he's not somebody who is looking to forge a coalition with some republican on a subcommity to try to get a bill moving in a bipartisan way. a lot of the
MSNBC
Sep 29, 2010 6:00am EDT
american frustration with what's happening in washington. >> what are you, lawrence o'donnell? >> their thirs for competent executive leadership. wouldn't it make sense for you to run for president in 2012? >> no. i think we should all pull behind barack obama. he's our president. if you want to run against him or you want somebody else, the last year of his term in office, that's when a campaign should start. but during the time, the first three years of his administration, we need a functioning president. this is america. we want to make this country better. there's nothing wrong with being partisan and expressing your views, disappointment, objections, other point of view. but you have to do it in ways that pull people together. >> mayor michael bloomberg, anything we can do to help spread the message to help children in new york? >> what nbc is doing really is great. >> all right. let's work on the obesity issue. i'd love to. i'm foisting myself on him. >> and your father is very smart. >> thank you. brilliant, isn't he? >> chuck todd straight ahead taking us straight to the nbc new
MSNBC
Sep 29, 2010 10:00am EDT
>>> tensions running high in europe right now over fears of a possible tror attack and is the u.s. at risk, too? >>> plus, a super soaker. tropical depression number 16 dwumping on a ton of rain on florida right now and then expected to head right up the east coast. >>> bristol palin's ex meets our own lawrence o'donnell. this one you want to see, believe me. >>> good wednesday morning, i'm chris jansing. live from msnbc world headquarters in new york. well, with the potential republican takeover of congress breathing down his neck, a newly energized and clearly fired up president obama is back on the road and he's got an awful lot at stake. this is the barack obama that fired up an electorate and took the white house. >> the prediction among the pundits is, this is going to be a blood letting for democrats. that's what they're saying in washington. we can't let this country fall backwards because the rest of us didn't care enough to fight. the stakes are too high for our country and for your future and i'm going to get throughout and fight as hard as i can and i know you are, too, to make sure we keep moving forward. >> that was before a raucous crowd last night. now, today, the president wraps up his four-state tour with stops in two more key states. iowa and virginia. mike viqueira is traveling with the president and joins us from des moines and, mike, we have seen him return to this very successful campaign mode that he used to get elected president and he's focusing on youth. talk a little bit about the strategy here. >> well, it's very quite obvious and the president has explicitly stated along with joe biden. chris, the day after the scolding came the pleading from president obama. he and the vice president the day before yesterday told the base stop, stop whining you have to buck up or everything you worked so hard for will go down the tubes. last night really trying to create that campaign air. it was a dnc event. completely political on the campus of university of wisconsin. the official estimate and you got to believe the obama, the obama administration and the democratic party got the picture that they wanted out there with all those kids out there cheering. it was a full-on production. the whole nine yards. the dnc had sponsored some internet watch parties. they said it was 200 places around the country. that's the kind of grassroots energizing they have to do but the president by his own admission admonishing all of those folks that were watching there on the ground at university of wisconsin and around the country that they're going to have to get motivated. today in des moines, iowa, a beautiful day in the neighborhood here, chris. the president has another one of these backyard discussions. again, talking about the economy, but not hesitating to veer off into a little bit of criticism. a lot of criticism about republicans and their pledge to america. we expect to see that here today in des moines and later on today in richmond, virginia. chris? >> mike viqueira, as he said in des moines. joining our conversation now doug wilder and msnb political adviser pat buchanan. governor wilder, as you are watching barack obama, you think he's getting a little bit of his mojo back? >> chris, it's good to be with you. the big problem that the democrats have and the president, i think, understands it, getting his mojo back to get him elected is one thing. getting his mojo back for transference is something different. and don't moind sind saying tha people were put back or put down by joe biden saying to people, stop whining. you don't have a job, stop whining. you don't have a mortgage, stop whining. things aren't good for you, stop whining. i think it will be much better for the president to deliver this kind of message to say this. i recognize that i have not done all the things that i could have done and would have liked to have done. i could and eating a lot of food. it's amazing. >> so you car how heavy you are, no matter how long you've been overweight, you are not genetically doomed to be fat. this plan will work for anyone who does it. no matter how much weight you have to lose, you truly can make over your body and be lean and happy for the rest of your life. >> on the six week body makeover i've lost 365 pounds in two years. weight became an issue for me about 11th or 12th grade when i couldn't fit into the seats in the high school. when i graduated from high school i w of the united states and to gvote for candidate x when you're in real trouble. >> do you think the electorate is as disillusioned. 59% think we're going in the wrong direction. on the other hand, we're still 34 days out from this election. you know, just because we in the media or people who are political junkies spent the summer obsessing about the elections and, you know, there were people, frankly, taking vacations and getting the kids ready to geto school. is this the critical time or maybe too little, too late to get that electorate fired up? >> well, i don't think it's too late. but the question is, what message are you trying to get out as thelma hart spoke so eloquently in atlanta and said directly to the president, i want to support and i'm becoming disillusioned and tired of defending you as such. yet, i can tell you that the people i run into on a regular basis, that poll number suggesting the country is not headed in the right direction. i think a lot of people are really questioning where we stand and where are we and who are the leaders that are going to project it for us? it's going to be difficult, i think, for democrats to turn it around. they can turn it around, the question is, how? time is running out. the sands in the hour glass are thinning by the day. >> pat, do you think maybe it's too little too late for the president or 43 days enough to turn this thing around and you mentioned some of the movement going away from the republicans. >> no, i don't think you can turn this around. a very bad election for the democrats. the question is, how bad. i think the republicans made an unforced error with that pledge and distracting people and giving the democrats a target to shoot at. but, really, i tell you, look at that poll you got, chris. look what's happening. nancy pelosi is 22 positive and 50 negative. harry reid is upside down. the president's upside down. stay on the offensive against the other team. when you get the ball, don't go start throwing it all over the field when you're a couple touchdowns up. >> pat, always good to talk to you. >> i think pat, i think pat played, he said it absloolutely right. it's not so much that the republicans are doing things so great, that pledge is really up in the air in terms of really connecting with the american people. the question is, what are the democrats promising they can do and how do they expect to deliver it? that's the message that has to get out there. >> governor wilder and pat buchanan, gentlemen, a real pleasure. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. >>> let's look at the weather. boy, it's been a busy season and look what happened in coastal virginia. possible tornado touching down there. this home in north hampton county was almost wiped out on monday evening the interesting thing is there was a man sitting in the house when the tornado or probable tornado hit but somehow he walked away without a scratch and no serious injuries reported and the damage there confined to this one area. >>> strong storm system packing h heavy winds and high rain is impacting the tropical right now. the storm moves north and the weather has forced the cancellation of an nhl preseason game between the carolina panthers and hurricanes. jim cantore is in florida for us today. >> something we're keeping a close eye on, if it gets heavier, the potential for flooding. you look at the palm trees behind me, hardly blowing at all. some of the worst wind last night when some of the first squalls came on through. that's really what we are finding of this depression. very unorthodox and almost falling apart as it's moving now off shore of cuba and hopefully stay that way. the rains right now haven't been heavy enough to cause the flooding and cars moving along pretty well as far as what we can see with the track. this morning in miami-dade enough to cause a few traffic accidents and that's what we heard so far with respect to this. school's in session and government office is open and everyone is pretty much going about business as usual as what is really going to be an all-day rain here in south florida. should end about the time the sun goes down this evening. so, storms go, hopefully this one will go pretty well for florida as we look down the road, though, another risk into early next week of this area possibly being affected by a tropical system. we will keep you posted on what happens next week. i'm meteorologist jim cantore, back to you. >>> let's go to bill karins. heading up the east coast. >> florida is like a sponge, sandy soil, it could rain all day in florida for the most part. that's not the case when you go up through the eastern seaboard. flood watches through canada and mid-atlantic and boston area won't be too bad with this one. how much rainfall we are expecting with this storm and adding it up as it goes in time here and the possibility of a six to seven inch localized rain event in areas of new jersey and new york city and that would be a big deal as far as the timing goes. starts tonight in d.c., some light rain and the real significant rains early tomorrow morning. the morning commute around d.c., philly and also baltimore will be bad. new york the heavy rain will just be moving in. tomorrow afternoon and evening the heaviest delays and d.c., philly to new york and getting into heaartford and wraps up thursday night into friday morning. it's a weird event. almost like a nor'easter type storm. just a very heavy rain event. a storm we would see in the spring -- >> it's a weird fall. let's just say that. >> i like a quiet fall, but the leaves first. >> doesn't this make that? >> we'll appreciate it later. >> thank you. >>> there are some frightening moments aboard a skywest airlines plane. they had to make an emergency landing in milwaukee last night and only part of the landing gear was done. paernsh passengered were warned to brace for impact. >>> well, classes are resuming today at the university of texas after an oncampus shoot hg the school on lockdown. the gunman is 19-year-old math major and sophomore colton tooey. he fired shots into the air and then in the library he shot himself to death. those who know him say he's intelligent and unemotional. cell phone video shows s.w.a.t teams entering one of the classrooms yesterday. no one else, fortunately, was hurt/" >>> california's first execution in five years has been put on hold. a san jose judge gave convicted rapist and murdrist elmwood greenwood brown a temporary reprieve just two days before he was to be executed. so close he already ordered his last meal. steak and onion rings. the judge didn't have enough time to review whether the lethal injection procedures is humane and further complicating that issue one of california's drugs that they were planning to use on friday expires on friday. >>> and europe is on high alert right now. officials keeping their eye on a terror plot that could possibly be targeting a few countries including france and germany. host: could switching to geico really save you 15% or more on car insurance? did the little piggy cry wee wee wee all the way home? piggy: weeeeeee, weeeeeee, weeeeeee, weeeee weeeeeeee. mom: max. ...maxwell! piggy: yeah? mom: you're home. piggy: oh,cool, thanks mrs. a. anncr: geico. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more. >>> terrorist allegedly planned shooting sprees for targets in france and germany and britain. people in paris are on edge, certainly, because the eiffel tower had to be evacuated for the second time this month after bomb threats there. it's open now, but officials warn there is still a threat and they're looking closely at pakistan where that threat may have originated. jenny is in london and, jenny, let's start with how officials found out about this. how did they? >> well, actually, we've been talking to a pakistani intelligence officer who doesn't want to be named and he told us the way we found out about this was because a number of british born pakistani suspects were arrested in pakistan earlier this month and during the interrogation they were being inteared by u.s., uk and pakistani intelligence officers and they revealed a plot to essentially go on a killing spree across europe. it was certainly supposed to be spreading to france, germany and denmark. having said that, at the moment, the state will alert here in the uk remain severe so that means the threats for a terror attack is highly likely and in germany, however, they haven't increased their level of attack and that's possibly because they say this plot was uncovered and it's very early embryonic stages. >> jenny, thanks so much. i want to bring in international terrorism consultant. michael seldom is a money executive for deloit. she mentioned, obviously, pakistan. there have been reports in the "wall street journal" that the number of drone attacks have been stepped up despite some folks eneurope and critics among human rights groups. what does this accomplish? particularly stepping up with drone attacks. >> the group responsible or allegedly responsible for this plot is based in these tribal regions and based in north wuzeerstone and they have been releasing video after video showing young german recruits heading there and showing the recruits and the concern is we let these guys sit there, organize, plan out operations and, you know, we can't stop them once they get to europe. >> the concern is the type of operation because we're hearing from a lot of counterterrorism officials that the real concern now is for the growing threat of these mumbai-style attacks, which is basically you go into a public place and you open fire and next thing you know in the case of mumbai, more than 200 people are dead and how do you protect against something like this? public places or public places? >> very, very dramatic. >> i think jan napolitano talked about that last week. shahzad goes through all this effort to plan an operation and the baomb doesn't go off. with these mumbai-style attacks there is no bomb and it is easier to cause mayhem and chaos. so, i mean, this is a concern and i think if you look at what the french police have been doing recently, taking these bomb threats against the eiffel tower very, very seriously, it's an indication that european law enforcement feels the same way. these are serious plots and there is a threat out there. whether or not that threat is going to be realized, we will see. they wanted to stop one of the key conspirators before he left kabul and afghanistan. >> that's where we want to be with this, michael. we want to be in front of it. you cannot provide security at every potential place that could provide a target. let me ask you about spain, just arresting the u.s. silt zn suspected of financing the north african affiliate and talk to us about the financing and how it plays into thwarting these kind of potential attacks. >> what we learned from the 9/11 commission is the amounts of money necessary to carry out these attacks is small. it usually goes across border and in the form of wire transfers. >> because this u.s. citizen, right, who was arrested in spain was 80 grand. it wasn't like millions of dollars. >> correct, exactly. that's why the obama administration issued yesterday a proposed rule that would require banks to send all, without respect to the value of the transaction, all transactional data to the office of treasury, the brain trust of treasury so they can proactively begin to analyze these data sets and look for these pings of information. >> when i hear things like analyze these data sets, it makes my brain go a little bit. can we plug this stuff into a computer? is this really easy to follow or is it complicated? >> it's complicated but without the data, you can't do it. this step of tobama administration jeyesterday is a good first step to allow treasury to get ahead of it instead of after the money has moved. that's the key in detecting and preventing this stuff is to get in front of it rather than react to it after the fact. >> michael, great to see you, evan, appreciate you coming in, as always. thank you, guys. >>> levi johnston wants to become the next mayor of wasilla, alaska. is he ready? lawrence o'donnell tests his knowledge. >>> and the winner is not who she originally said. oops. >> this is a complete accident, i'm so sorry. ♪ [ male announcer ] we touch a lot of things throughout the day. so it's nice that clorox disinfecting products help kill the germs that can live on surfaces for up to 48 hours. ♪ feels sweet when i can touch you ♪ you struggle to control your blood sugar. you exercise and eat right, but your blood sugar may still be high, and you need extra help. ask your doctor about onglyza, a once daily medicine used with diet and exercise to control high blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes. adding onglyza to your current oral medicine may help reduce after meal blood sugar spikes and may help reduce high morning blood sugar. 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clearly, there's a throw the bums out kind of mentality or do you think there are a lot of republicans who are disenchanted with the party and are looking for a different, more conservative way? >> well, chris, i hate to put it this way, but i think it's a little bit of both. i think there is very much an anti-washington mood and i think there is a mood for real reform and part of the real awakening. one major tea party group joined the tea party.us has put out its contract from america. it's going with the premise that if we're going to employ people, if these people are going to work for us, they ought to be listening to what we have to say. so, in that sense, i don't believe it's exclusively republican. i think what you're seeing is widespread dissatisfaction and, indeed, the story proceeding us here in the ethics condry in which congressman waters find themselves and i might say chairwoman and apparently no time to schedule these ethics trials, i think it speaks volumes. >> i think the question i have and maybe i didn't phrase it as clearly as i could have, congressman frost. do you think these people, the 71% who seem to associate or like the ideas of the tea party really know what they are? is it a little bit like that pew poll we talked about earlier in the hour where people talked about their faith but when they're asked about the specific tenants of their faith, don't really know what they are. so, do you think that the tea party message is really clear and that 71% is really aware of that message? >> well, i like to think of the tea party as republicans in funny hats. these people are all over the ballpark. i don't think people fully understand what they stand for. some of the tea party folks want to have privatization of social security and medicare. other republicans want to run away from that and say, oh, no, that's not us. so, the public is unhappy. the public is going to vote against a lot of incumbents and some of those incumbents who may be defeated may be republicans. i think there is a strong mood out there that there needs to be change. whether it's a strong enough mood to actually change the control of the house and the senate remains to be seen, but i don't think the tea party is clearly defined. i mean, j.d. lost his race. he was their candidate and he lost by a pretty significant margin. other tea party candidates won. >> well, understand this, $25 million according to the center responsive politics. i don't want to go back and refight that, but just to make a point, record-setting spending and that's a tall order in any circumstance and i think we're talking about different races around the country. >> go ahead, chris. >> without getting into those. we do have the defeats of incumbent republican senators robert bennet and the victory in delaware by christine oo'donnell who is backed by, of course, tea party groups. but congressman hayworth, let me ask you this then. even let's say that in the biggest picture the people who say that 71% behind the tea party understand it is for lower taxes, smaller government. they want to lower the deficit. i don't think if you go to washington you ask many members of congress, is the deficit a problem? do we need to get a handle on the deficit? they'll say no. the devil is in the details and how do we do it? >> precisely, chris. as you will note, the tea party, the acronym t.e.a. stands for taxed enough already. this may not need be partisan. we have seen through history whether it was jack kennedy in the 1960s or ronald reagan in the 1980s more recently president bush working with those of us who served on the ways and means committee. when you lower taxes across the board, that leads to reigniting the engines. the american people instinctively understand that. that is why you're seeing this broad-based movement that transcends party lines to say that government is too large and the last thing we need is to have government taking more and more of our hard-earned dollars as we fail to have jobs created by government. those jobs leading the private sector. >> real quick, we have to make this the last word. congressman frost, real quick. >> just remember it is the tea party that revived the candidacy of harry reid. it's the tea party that has given us a chance in kentucky by nominati nominating paul. the tea party thatted a vblth privatizing social security and medicare. that's a birden for the republican party. >> congressmen, thanks to both of you. thank you so much. >>> all right. the most controversial young man in alaska, meantime, not running for congress, but mayor of wasilla. he was talking politics and bristol palin with msnbc lawrence o'donnell on "the last word." he declared his intention to run for mayor of his hometown wasilla. one question echoed the question sarah palin faced on the trail. remember? 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was not much of a night for the conventional wisdom. lawrence o'donnell, host of the last word debuting here september 27th at 10:00 p.m. >> good to be here, keith. >> she can't win, that's from matt kibby of freedom works yesterday. tea party conventional wisdom is no longer applicable? >> there is no conventional wisdom for the tea party, keith. we don't have a neat precedent, which is what all political analysis needs, a neat precedent to tell us how this is going to behave and how this is going to work in the general election. yes, this is better news for the democrats than mike castle getting the nomination. the presumption was mike castle would easily roll to victory in delaware, mainstream delaware republican candidacy. the christine o'donnell candidacy is considered far too extreme for delaware, it wasn't too extreme tonight. it wasn't too extreme for republican primary voters. >> turnout was about a quarter higher than expected. who voted for her? >> well, that's the indication of real energy behind her candidacy, you don't see turnout bumps on these kinds of primaries
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that does it for us tonight. we will see you again tomorrow night. meanwhile lots to add what you've seen on the show tonight. we're very proud of our blog at maddowblog at msnbc.com. now it's time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." >> i never thought we'd be taking the mood down when we take over from you. but we may just actually do it tonight. >> it's the tea party coloring book. >> now i'm intimidated. >> thanks, rachel. >> bye, lawrence. >>> the bush tax cuts are now set to expire at the end of the year, and today that trap caught dozen of democrats. >> 34 days now to the midterms. >> democrats say yes, republicans say never. >> give the house an opportunity in a fair and open debate to extend all of the current tax rates. >> 39 house democrats defect today and join an attempt to avoid tax cuts now. >> the nays are 209. >> speaker pelosi has to cast the deciding vote at the end of the week. >> irresponsibility on the part of this congress. >> and now they're about to walk away without even voting to protect americans. congress must not adjourn until we vote. >> the president finally uses the bully bull pit to bully. >> the policies we fought so hard for to change in 2008. >> but in the politics of taxation, can reality trump myth. >> somehow there's a myth out there, that we have raised taxes on small businesses. in fact we've lowered taxes on just about everybody. >> he's pushed for progressive taxation, he's going after the rich. he's done what a progressive should have tried to do. >> good evening from new york. i'm lawrence owe only do. you can run, but you can never hide from the great never ending tax debate. republicans will never let you. they believe the party of less taxes will always beat the party of more taxes as long as the voters are listening to the debate. >> mr. reagan will raise taxes, and so will i. he won't tell you, i just did. >> because the deficit has increased so much, beyond my earlier estimates, and beyond even the worst official government estimates from last year. we just have to face the fact that to make the changes our country needs, more americans must contribute today so that all americans can do better tomorrow. >> make the tax relief permanent. members of congress should know. if any bill raises taxes reaches my desk, i will veto it. >> bill clinton's tax increase, the biggest one of all time, was preamble to a democratic loss of the house and senate in 1994, democrats had feared any form of tax increase since then. never mind that the economy s r soared to unprecedented heights. democrats once again lost the tax debate to republicans. barack obama wouldn't tax debate in the presidential campaign, arguing for an increase only for the top bracket. but that was then, and this is now. i discussed the current 125statf play with david axelrod in an interview taped earlier today. david axelrod, thanks for joining us today. this afternoon -- >> good to be with you, lawrence. >> the house decided to adjourn in a shockingly close vote. that's never a close vote, but it was today. 39 democrats voted against adjournment without taking action on the current tax rates. some democrats were eager to go home, others were eager to stay in washington and fix this. so who's right, the go home now democrats or the fix taxes first democrats? >> well, the question really is, what about the hold the tax cut hostage republicans, and that's really what this debate has been about from the beginning. we all agree, republicans and democrats that we ought to extend these tax cuts up to $250,000 a year. that would take in 98% of the american people, give the middle class the tax cuts that they really need after getting battered over the course of the last decade. the republican party, mr. mcconnell, mr. bainer have said, no, that's not good enough, we want to spend $700 billion over the next ten years to give tax cuts to the wealthiest americans, millionaires and billionaires and our position is, we don't have $700 billion for that. that's not going to markedly help the economy. it's the least effective form of stimulus, and yet mr. mcconnell said, if it wasn't in the bill, he would filibuster that, on the senate side. so the real issue is, when are the republicans going to sit down with us and say, okay, we agree on this much. let's remove the uncertainty for middle class americans, and let them know come january first they're not going to see a too much increase. >> what do you make of the 39 democrats that sided with the republicans on this? does that spell trouble when the democrats eventually do take up this tax question in the house? >> i don't think so. i think among those 39 you're going to find people who are very eager to end this uncertainty, continue the middle class tax cut. i understand that, it's very clear we would be enmeshed in a game of cat and mouse with the republicans over this, because they're so committed to this. the thing that makes this so interesting to me is that when they released their pledge last week and talk about the things that they would do if they had control, they said, we want to end the end of the recovery act. and half of those unobligated funds would be in something called the making work pay tax cut that we implemented that goes to the middle class, so 110 middle class families would see their taxes go up under the republican plan. and yet they're fighting fiercely to take care of millionaires and billionaires. >> you're trying to hold on to the house and the senate in the midst of the worst recession since world war ii. there's an article in "the new republic" this week that came out that says, during the transition, after a meeting about the economy, before the president was sworn in, you told the president-elect -- you predicted -- that his numbers would be in the toilet in 12 to 18 months and then "all of us who were geniuses are going to be idiots." is this what you meant that those economic numbers were going to control our politics and the democrats and the president's pop layerity and polling numbers were going to sink because of the economy? >> well, i'm not sure if i said in the toilet. >> no, that was not in quotation marks. that part's not in quotation marks, david. >> i did say they were going to be a lot different than they were right there. it's a -- look, lawrence, you're a student of this business, you've been around it a long time. when you're sitting with your economists and they tell you the president-elect, we're in the midst of a recession that could be as deep as anything we've seen since the great depression, and there's a one in three chance we might have a great depression, you know you're not walking into a great political environment, and they always made clear it was going to take a long time to deal with the damage that this had done. beyond that, we also knew in terms of the election itself, we had two bumper crops of wins legislatively in 2006 and 2008, 55 seats we won during those elections, midterm elections as you know, traditionally are tough for the party and for all those reasons, i felt it was going to be challenging, and it is challenging. >> david, you have the president out on the road and the buck up and stick with me tour, trying to hold on to democrats' power. and we had on this show last night, one of the leaders of the groups that the president's talking to, adam green. he's the leader of the progressive change campaign committee. he was encouraged by what he heard in wisconsin yesterday. primarily because he heard the president use the word fight. his point was, he doesn't think that you and the president, when it comes to legislating, when it comes to governing are fighting. and i guess someone has to break it to adam green and others that no one fights. these guys in neckties do not fight. they ask each other to do things and they are empowered to say no. and their outcomes are not controlled by campaign rhetoric or by the image of the presidency. who's going to break that to the people who are disappointed in what the president's achieved? >> well, lawrence, let me say, first of all, that on the first point, we have achieved a great deal. as i said, you've been around a long time. when you consider the things that we've gotten done under a very difficult circumstances over the last two years, health insurance reform, financial reform, landmark education reform, doubling the use of renewable energy, putting us on that path. raising fuel efficiency standards for the first time in 28 years, and a whole host of other things, you know, those are things that we ought to embrace, we ought to celebrate. and now we have to protect because the republican party wants to roll back all of that, and go back to the very same policies that punished the middle class, exploded the deficits and plunged our economy into the catastrophe that we faced when we walked into office. so we have a fight on our hands right now, and we need all hands on deck in that fight. that's the point the president's making, that's the point that the vice president made the other night on your show. and by the way, anyone who thinks that it didn't take a struggle to do some of these things wasn't paying attention, obviously health care was an epic battle. i don't think there's been a legislative battle like it in our generation. financial reform was an epic battle. the capitol was awash with lobbyists from wall street and it was an extraordinary victory that enabled us to move forward with the kinds of reforms that we did, that put elizabeth warren in the position to do the things that she can do for consumers now. and so on. i think we have a lot to be proud of. and we have a lot of work ahead of us. what we can't afford now is to have these intramural debates, while there's so much at stake. that's the point the president is trying to make all over this country. >> it seems to me what you've come up against is the politics of campaigning and the politics of governing. in the politics of campaigning you can say anything, and you can use the word fight and say i'm going to provide health care to all americans. and the politics of governing are limited by other people's interests. in the campaign where i never second guessed you once. people would criticize the obama campaign at different points, i never did. i was watching a flawless campaign that was running better than i could have ever imagined. in the politics of governing, i think there have been some mistakes. during the campaign, people would say, who's right on health care, hillary or obama? it's not up to them, it's up to a guy named max baucus who you've never heard of, and that turned out to be true. there was an overpromising in the campaign, heated rhetoric in the campaign which can never ever be delivered in the processes of congress, and the disappointed base has yet to come to terms with that. >> yeah, lawrence, you speak for experience, because you worked for the chairman of the finance committee in the senate. but the truth is, that i think the emphasis is in the wrong place. i don't think the surprising thing is what we haven't gotten done, the surprising thing is how much we've gotten done. we've been working on that health care issue for a century in this country. you were around for some of those fights. the degree to which we were able to move on that issue, to the point where we have a patient's bill of rights on steroids, to keep people from being discriminated against, people being seriously ill from being thrown off their insurance. seniors more prescription drug protection, all of that. and the ability for people who don't have health insurance to be able to buy it at a price they can afford. all of that as part of this. that to me is something to feel very positive about. and, you know, i think it's a mistake to say, but, it wasn't -- it's 80% of what we've been fighting for for a century. we didn't get 100%, and, therefore, it's not quite right. that's not -- you're quite right about one thing, that's not governance, governance is about make compromises, but compromises that don't compromise your fundamental goal or principle. and you have to do the first in order to get things done. if you do the second, then it's not worth getting things done. i think the president did it the right way. >> white house senior adviser david axelrod, thanks for your time today. >> thanks for having me on, lawrence. >>> how will tea party candidates fit in on capitol hill. are tea party members racist? 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the radical transformation is the subject of a new "rolling stone" article called tea and crackers, how corporate interests and republican insider s built the tea party monster. the author of the piece is matt taibbi. matt, before we get to the transformation, one of the central questions about the tea party, and one of the accusations that flies around, is that this is a racist group. predominantly racist group, partially racist group, or more racist than your average collection on a subway car in new york city. you've been in and among them. >> right. >> what's the answer to the tea party racist question? >> my answer,it's not so much about hating black people for these people. it's more about believing in this preposterous fantasy that white people are some kind of oppressed minority in the age of obama. i don't know whether that's racism, but it's just incredibly stupid. and that's really my answer. i think there's not that much overt racism, clearly race is a factor in almost all of their political views. but it's really more like a collective narcissistic -- >> they're working without a historical framework for anyone else's experience except their own and their own families? >> right. >> that's what you're calling the narcissistic view of our politics? >> they really believe in the sort of idea that they're this persecuted oppressed people, and they have no frame of reference about anybody else's experience. and they also don't have any sense of how their rhetoric is received by the rest of the country. you just think of the whole idea of the tea party. if they're the tea partiers, people like you and me are red coats, we're literally not americans, we're unamerican. and it's -- they really believe that. >> the narcissism is why we're playing the carly simon song. it's nothing to do with you. how does this movement change, and let's get to the core of this history question of where it started. there's a reporter at cnbc who claims and people claim he started the tea party. >> rick santelli. >> was there something of a tea party before his outburst on cnbc. >> yes, and it was directly in line with the ron paul presidential campaign. i remember some of those gatherings. what we have now is sort of tea party 2.0. it's a second kind of wave of tea partiers that coalesce after that rick santelli outburst on tv. it's interesting i remember in the 2008 campaign when i covered it, that people who are now tea partiers were barring ron paul supporters from their events. they were separate groups of people then and they're the same now. >> you argued that the case of rand paul as a nominee shows how the republican interest and the republican party has co opted the tea party, beginning with an incident that occurred in this very studio where rachael mad dow interviewed ron paul back in may. we're going to take a look at that. >> i don't want to be badgering you on this, but i do want an answer, do you think a private business -- >> i'm not in favor of any discrimination of any form. but i think what's important about this debate is not written into any specific gotcha on this. but asking the question, what about freedom of speech? should we limit speech from people we find abhorrent? should we limit racists from speak something. >> i think there was an overriding problem in the south, that was so big it did require federal intervention in the '60s, and it stemmed from things that i said, going on really 120 years too long. and the southern states weren't correcting it and i think there was a need for federal intervention. >> what a difference a day made in that response. what happened overnight? >> well, from what i understand, right after that appearance, the paul campaign was contacted by people like karl rove and there was influence from mitch mcconnell and rand paul was asked to cancel media appearances including "meet the press." which was interesting because before that moment rand paul and mitch mcconnell had been distinctly separate entities. before you knew it, mcconnell was doing fund-raisers for rand paul. and that's the change. >> you do strike a note of sympathy in here when you say at times their desire to withdraw from the brutality complex global economic system that is an irrevokable fact of our modern life and get back to a simpler world that no longer exists is so intense it breaks your heart. >> it's similar when you see protests on the left, protests against the brutally complex global economic system. >> that's the key appeal of the tea party, it provides simple solutions for incredibly complex problems. you know, it -- the solution to everything in the tea party ideology is market good, government bad. that's the thing that everybody can understand. and that's what the appeal is for these people. it's just not that simple. the world has gotten too big, there's no way to waive that magic wand. and that's part of where the frustration comes from. >> matt taibbi, thanks for your time tonight. >> thank you. >>> bob woodward joins me to describe the behind the scenes power struggle between the commander in chief and his generals as they plan a new way forward in afghanistan. >>> and more on the world wide reaction to my interview last night with levi johnston. with fire in its veins. bold. daring. capable of moving your soul. ♪ and that's even before you drop your foot on the pedal. ♪ the new 2011 cts coupe from cadillac. the new standard of the world. >>> levi johnston, the almost son-in-law of half term governor sarah palin joined me on this show last night. he's a really good sport about coming here. and, yes, he's very good looking. i like him a lot. i have no doubt why bristol was so smitten. i wasn't so sure america would care that i got him to sit down and answer some political questions. i was wrong. >> live on the view. levi johnston's first interview since announcing he's running for mayor of wasilla. >> barbara, i'm going to turn this over to you. >> i was concerned last night to see an interview that lawrence o'donnell did. he has a new show at 10:00 at night, and i stayed up and watched it. he was interviewing levi johnston. a little knowledge, a limb background. >> can you really take it seriously? 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and he was very -- this was at the beginning of the administration, actually before they took office. he made the trip to afghanistan and pakistan. and it upset him deeply, and rightfully so that the soldiers on the ground didn't exactly know what the mission was. >> it really strikes me in this book what a big presence biden is and how open he is with you. i couldn't help compare it to the cheney presence or nonpresence in your four-book series where cheney was one of the four people who refused to communicate with you -- >> actually, that's not true. there's a good deal of cheney in those books. cheney is a hold it type. biden is the opposite of let it go. and one of the interesting parts here is the relationship between obama and biden. and i asked obama about this, and i said, you know, don't -- isn't joe a little heavy handed here? doesn't he go too long too far? no, obama said, he's doing exactly what i want. i want him to push in the strategy review sessions, and during this whole process up to a couple months ago as i report. biden is asking the questions, worried profoundly about getting into another vietnam. and he's 19 years older than obama, remembers vietnam. gets in his face about it. >> now, every one of these books provokes a round of apologies in washington. there's the famous now biden quote about richard holbrooke being egotistical. and as you continue in the book, but he is probably the best guy for the job. i had the vice president on monday night, was his first interview since that quote came out. and he was dealing with me with that quote, while dick holbrooke was here having completed an interview with "the rachel maddow show" before this. do you feel the press will grab little nuggets like that out of this book, which is so much more important than an individual's ego or adjectives about an individual? do you feel the press seizes on that so easily? >> sometimes, but it's part of the story. this book and the national security team are key, like any team. and there is antagonism and there is name calling and there is distrust. and when you look at it, try to step back, what is the show, it shows many unsettled areas in the war in terms of this strategy. what are we really trying to do? what is july of next year mean in terms of draw down. does the present have the will to win. does he not use that kind of, yes, we can language about the war as he did when he was seeking the office of president. >> and he certainly doesn't use the certainty that appears in president bush in your earlier books on this same war. it's so interesting the difference between these approaches as your books reveal, president bush very decisive at many stages in your books where when we look back on it, we can think, ah, i wish he had maybe had one more meeting on that one, especially maybe weapons of mass destruction? gone over that information one more time. this is the president that seems to me who does have the extra meeting and does take into full consideration all of the variables. >> he does. and this is the conflict within obama, quite frankly. he's commander in chief, he knows and he committed himself in the campaign, to make this the war we were going to pay attention to. intellectually he looks at the data, the intelligence on the afghan war, and there's a lot of dreary negative news. in fact, just back in may he came out of one of the monthly reviews, the top secret kind of assessments they make in the situation room at the white house, and said, given this definition of the problem, i don't know how we come up with a solution. so this is a war that hangs in the balance. it's not clear where it's going. and this is the portrait of him, unvarnished, unspun, detail after detail, meeting -- there are thousands of words where he is talking, where he's asking questions. and you're absolutely right, it's different from bush. bush's meetings were essentially, my gut tells me we should invade iraq. how are we going to do it? now, he did have lots of meetings about how, and i think as rumsfeld and general tommy franks convinced it was going to be easy. paul wolfowitz said it would take seven days, the war. it looked easy, and so we had a launch. and, of course, we're still there. >> ultimately, the picture that emerges in your series on the bush administration, war making machine, operation, it became a truly dysfunctional system with generals afraid to say exactly what they thought to rumsfeld, with people wondering, exactly what is cheney saying privately to bush, after we leave the meeting that's supposed to be about this subject? circumventing national security process. really an out of control process that ends up being the sum effect of the picture described in those volumes. how does it compare to the process that we see the obama administration dealing with? >> this is much more systematic, look, obama law professor, and what would you do as a law professor, you give a's to people who can identify the most issues. what are the questions here? and if you come up with the list of 23 and everyone else comes up with 6, you win the prize. you get -- so it is very cerebral. and this has been and now is very much the debate about the president. is there a little bit of a detachment, emotional detachment, a withdrawal. not because he doesn't care, i mean, i'm convinced he cares. i think this is -- he sought the office and he lives it, but by being so cerebral, he puts himself, people -- he's not grabbing people. he's not like joe biden going around, hey, what are we doing here? what do you think? >> i had the chance to ask david axelrod today in an interview i taped earlier today about a line in this book. let's hear what he had to say. >> good. >> i just want to ask you, one line involved in woodward's book where general petraeus is quoted after being in a briefing with you, he's quoted as calling you a complete spin doctor, did you take that as a compliment? >> i did, indeed, because as i've said before, general petraeus is probably as good as they come on television, and you've seen him. you probably interviewed him, he's masterful, if he's bestowing that mantle on me, i take it as a compliment. >> bob, quickly, before you go -- >> one spin doctor to another. >> i'm not going to ask you the question about how do you do it? i know how you do it. i was the subject of the woodward interview back during the clinton administration, when you were working the senate. i got the phone call, the message bob woodward wants to talk to me. there was no question i was going to talk to you. i know everyone else is trying to sell you their version of events, i gotta get in there and sell you my version of events. that's why we all do it. >> it's not just selling. >> i was selling you the truth. >> you were -- i came in with information, specific data points, memos, and so forth. senator moynihan who was your boss at that point, what's he thinking, what's the road he's traveling, and so forth? and so, look, there is -- this is the wonderful good news part about this country is there's a little bit of the secret chair in everyone who wants to believe in the first amendment and kind of tell their story. and so all we do as reporters, book authors, is sit there and this listen. >> and you came in with more information than any reporter i had ever met. your first question, 30 seconds in. you were at the cabinet meeting on may 7th with the president, everyone says you were taking notes. can i have your notes? i was completely offbalance, didn't know what to do. >> we did get your notes. >> you did, as you always get the notes. bob woodward, thanks for your time tonight. >> thanks. >>> coming up, the latest shout on don't ask don't telecoms from sarah silverman at funny or die. >>> sarah palin called them gotcha questions, levi johnston barrelled through them as best as he could. who handled them better, the governor or the high school dropout? >>> lady gaga has put the spotlight on don't ask don't tell. now the folks at funny or die have joined in. >>> who's better under pressure, levi johnston or sarah pailen? s drifting into the other lane. 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not true. i think there are scenarios -- where we need ballerinas behind enemy lines. i just don't want them to be weird gay fruits. >> we don't have enough people translating, our country's in a recession and investigating and discharging gay soldiers and training their replacements is costing us $300 million. two guys kissing is gross. >> i have osama bin ladin in my sites. the openly gay guy next to me can smell my axe perfume and can't help but kiss me. >> if i'm in the shower with a gay lady, it's like, your body is so soft. i don't want a gay lady thinking like that. >> next chihuahuas wearing sequin vests, that's just math. what's next, unicorns wearing capri pants? >> army uniform on a gay? i'm sorry, but that would be like -- that would be like this mustache on a gay guy, or this motorcycle jacket. it would be wrong. and weird. >> while none of us have actually served our country. >> we know exactly who we don't want doing it for us. >> we are guys against you serving. >> and we are proud. >> to see more guys against you serving head to thelastword@msnbc.com where even more will be posted soon. >>> coming up, two interviewees, two interviewers, one set of questions. who did better, levi johnston or sarah palin, you decide after the break. did you know prilosec otc can stop frequent heartburn before it begins? heartburn happens when stomach acid refluxes into the esophagus. prilosec otc uses a unique delayed-release system that protects the medicine as it passes through the stomach's tough acid. then it gets absorbed into the body, turning off many acid-producing pumps at the source. with just one pill a day, you get 24-hour heartburn protection all day and all night. prilosec otc. heartburn gone. power on. >>> last night levi johnston joined me to talk about his campaign for mayor of wasilla. turns out levi and i have a lot in common. we both hate homework. when my boss isabella povich ordered me to prepare for the interview, i closed my office door, went online and stole all my questions from katie couric's brilliant 2008 interviews of sarah palin. i leave it to you to decide who had the better answers. >> when it comes to establishing your world view, i was curious what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read? >> i read most of them, again with a great appreciation for the press and the media. >> what ones specifically, i'm curious -- >> all of them, any of them that have been in front of me over all these years. >> when it comes to establishing your world view, i'm just curious, what newspapers and magazines do you read regularly? >> i read the frontiersman every once in a while, wasilla. i'm not going to sit here and tell you i read a lot of newspapers, i don't get the new york times, i don't watch a whole lot of news, i don't watch tv all that often. >> there are man's activities that can be contribute to the issues that we're dealing with now with these impacts. i'm not going to solely blame all of man's activities on changes in climate, because the world's weather patterns are cyclical. >> no, i don't. >> you don't believe it's man made? or you do believe it's man made? >> i don't believe it's man made. >> some people have credited the morning after pill with decreasing the number of abortions. how do you feel about the morning after pill? >> i feel -- that's a girl's decision, same with abstinence. i don't believe in abstinence. >> how do you feel about the morning after pill? >> well, i'm all for contraception and i'm all for any preventative measures that are legal and safe and should be taken. but katie, again, i am one to believe that life starts at the moment of conception. and -- >> ergo, you don't believe in the morning after pill. >> i would like to see fewer and fewer abortions in the world. i haven't spoken with anyone who disagrees with my position on that. >> if you're having unprotected sex, you get the girl pregnant, you should have the baby. >> i'm sorry i just want to ask you again, do you condone or condemn the morning after pill? >> personally, and this isn't a mccain/palin policy -- >> oh, that's okay, i'm just asking you. >> but personally, i would not chose to participate in that kind of contraception. >> do you believe evolution should be taught as an accepted scientific principle or one of several theorys? >> i believe it should have be taught as an acceptable principle. >> do you believe evolution should be taught as an accepted scientific principle or one of several different theorys. >> you're kind of getting over my head on some of these questions. i don't know how to answer that question. >> would you support a employer tore yum on foreclosure to keep americans from losing their homes. >> it's going to be a multifaceted solution that has to be found here. >> so you haven't decided whether you'll support it or not? >> would you support a moratorium on foreclosures to help average americans keep their homes? >> i believe i would. >> i know the mccain campaign has called for a surge in afghanistan, but that country is, as you know, traumatically different than iraq. why do you believe additional u.s. troops will solve the problems there. >> because we can't afford to lose in afghanistan, as we can't afford to lose in iraq either. these central fronts on the war on terror -- >> in afghanistan, do you believe additional u.s. troops will solve the problem there? >> i have no idea. >> the united states is deeply unpopular in pakistan, do you think the pakistani government is protecting al qaeda within its borders. >> i don't believe that new president zadari has that mission at all. >> like i said, i don't watch a whole lot of tv. >> frontiersman doesn't have a lot to say about that, when you're reading frontiersman? >> apparently not. >> do you believe the u.s. should reason with president ahmadinejad? >> yeah, i think we should reason with everyone. >> barack obama is so offbase in his proclamation that he would meet with some of these leaders around our world that would seek to destroy america. >> i'm new to politics, i don't know a whole lot, you know? >> okay, i'm voting for levi, but it's up to you. who handled the questions better, levi or sarah. go to our blog at thelastword@msnbc.com. we'll have the results tomorrow. >>> and also tomorrow,
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lawrence o'donnell." >> i never thought we'd be taking the mood down when we take over from you. but we may just actually do it tonight. >> it's the tea party coloring book. >> now i'm intimidated. >> thanks, rachel. >> bye, lawrence. >> 34 days now to the midterms. >> democrats say yes, republicans say never. >> give the house an opportunity in a fair and open debate to extend all of the current tax rates. >> 39 house democrats defect today and join an attempt to avoid tax cuts now. >> the nays are 209. >> speaker pelosi has to cast the deciding vote at the end of the week. >> irresponsibility on the part of this congress. >> and now they're about to walk away without even voting to protect americans. congress must not adjourn until we vote. >> the president finally uses the bully bull pit to bully. >> the policies we fought so hard for to change in 2008. >> but in the politics of taxation, can reality trump myth. >> somehow there's a myth out there, that we have raised taxes on small businesses. in fact we've lowered taxes on just about everybody. >> he's pushed for progressive taxati
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okay. that's september 27th. i'm keith olbermann. good night and good luck. and now why democrats like a >>> campaign mode, president obama plans a four-state swing taking aim at republicans for irresponsible policies. >>> mercury rising, los angeles swelters in a record-breaking autumn heat wave. >>> and home on the range. record numbers turn out to watch an american tradition on the great plains. good morning to you. i'm veronica de la cruz. this is "first look" on msnbc. >>> we begin this tuesday morning with taking aim on the trail. president obama took republicans to task for their proposed pledge to america yesterday, calling their policies, quote, irresponsible. today the president sets out on a campaign swing with stops planned in three states to sell his plan to fix the economy. tracie potts is in washington, d.c. live with us this morning with the latest. good morning to you, tracie. >> veronica, good morning. what you'll see this morning will take on a distinct campaign trail feel, designed to use what worked for them two years ago during the presidential campaign, the president swinging through states to energize young voters and to sell his economic plan. part of that plan was helping small businesses. we saw that as he signed the small business bill into law yesterday, creating a $30 billion fund to give them more money to free up money for these businesses to expand and hire workers. today, president obama takes his message to albuquerque, new mexico, where he'll continue a series of backyard meetings with voters and have a big rally at the university of wisconsin later on tonight. as we get closer to the election, we're seeing the administration get much more aggressive in tone and message, vice president biden saying stop whining and look for alternatives out there. president obama calling pledge to america irresponsible. today, we'll find out what voters think consumer confidence numbers come out this morning. veronica? >> tracie potts in washington, thank you. >>> american students and teachers could be in for major changes if president obama has his way. the president joined matt lauer for an interview, part of nbc's education nation, a special week of programming on concerns over the education system. the president talks about what he wants to see happening at schools including identifying teachers who do well and getting rid of those that don't. he also talked about something that probably didn't sit well with kids. >> i think we should have longer school years. we now have our kids go to school about a month less than most other advanced countries. and that month makes a difference. >> don't forget, our coverage of education nation continues throughout the day. for more resources and information, check out our special website, educationnation.com. >>> the number two in command was talking democratic strategy yesterday. last night lawrence asked president joe biden what he meant that the gop democrats are facing this year are "not their grandfather's republican party. >> what i really said was that this is not even your father's republican party. these folks don't want to talk. these folks don't want to enter into a compromise. these folks don't want to come up with practical solutions. i know what they're against. what i don't know is what they're for. why are they against us trying to stimulate jobs by giving tax cuts to the middle class? why are they against us stimulating jobs by giving tax breaks to small businesses which, this fact, are the ones that create the jobs? why don't thiey think it's important to develop alternative energy and all the jobs that would flow from those jobs and encourage manufacturing to stay in the united states? why is it they don't support the president's proposal to continue our increase in infrastructure which would be necessary even if we had full employment? i know what they're against. they're against all those things. i just don't know what they're for. >> don't miss lawrence o'donnell's last word on the biggest issues and most compelling stories of the day. "the last word" airs weeknights at 10:00 p.m. time only on msnbc. >>> palestinian president mahmoud abbas said he will wait at least one week before deciding whether or not to quit middle east peace talks with israel. that development comes after the united states, france, england and the united nations expressed disappointment over israel's refusal to haveextend a ten-mon building freeze on the west bank. meanwhile, george mitchell has been sent to israel in hopes of breaking the problems in the negotiations. >>> the old saying it never rains in california, well it was never literally hotter there in downtown los angeles. downtown l.a. hitting 113 degrees breaking the all-time record of 112 set back in june 1990. the heat has led to tens of thousands of power outages. in the meantime, the dry conditions have firefighters on alert for flash wildfires. today is forecast to be another hot one, no records are expected to be broken. >>> here is your "first look" at some of the other news going on around america today. in texas, an elderly couple is dead and one firefighter is recovering after a two-alarm fire broke out in an apartment complex. firefighters were forced to retreat when live ammunition started going off. authorities are investigating the cause of the fire. >>> in south dakota, the annual roundup of a free roaming buffalo herd in the black hills custer state park attracted thousands. once a year, the herd is rounded up the old fashioned way for a visit to the buffalo doctor, if you will, where they will be sorted, vaccinated, branded and then released to once again roam freely home of the range. >>> a new exhibit opens in new york today, the yan dynasty exhibit. the more than 200 artifacts dating as far back as the late 1200s belonged to the grandson of the great conqueror gengh genghis khan. many of the items on display have never been seen outside of china. >>> in utah, one man claims he has the fastest lawn mower ever, check this out it averages speeds of about 96 miles per hour. he ran several heats at the bonville salt flats to get up to his average, a huge jump from his previously held record of 81 miles per hour. nevertheless, he says he will be back racing to his goal of 100 miles per hour. time for a look at the national weather. we turn to meteorologist dominica davis. it's been a while. >> it has been a while. good to see you, too. we are look at the rain along the east coast this is much-needed rain. we need this. but we have a lot coming in. once again today, keep the rain gear handy, you'll need it. heavy showers from pittsburgh, pushing over to the district, philadelphia, new york, a bit of a break, but you will get that rain off and on. the difference between yesterday and today is we have that increased risk for thunderstorms. so slight chance we could see severe weather pop up. yesterday we had highs in the 70s. today the same from new york down to dc. temperatures are still going to be in the 70s. still having that muggy feel. it's not that cool, crisp, fall air that we all have been waiting to get in here. another day of the muggies. for today, the i-95 corridor will be a wet one with a chance of severe weather by this afternoon. this evening and tomorrow, a bit of a break here this is short-lived, more rain moving up from the south. that pushes in for thursday right into friday. by the weekend, we'll finally dry out which is certainly good news. some areas have picked up -- yesterday, veronica, some areas down to the south picked up a half foot of rain. it's a lot of rain coming quickly, so we could be looking at flash flood areas, not only today but tomorrow as well. >> you know, you pay us a visit and you're supposed to bring the sunshine. what's going on? >> i can't help it, veronica. mother nature duped me once again. >> all right. talk to you soon. >> big business dealmakers say gobble gobble, ben and jerry go unnatural. and a pumpkin shortage? what pumpkin shortage? >>> the phillies popped the champagne and a battle of unbeatens goes down to the wire in chicago. you are watching "first look." ready to try something new? campbell's has made changes. adding lower sodium sea salt to more soups. plus five dollars in coupons to get you started. campbell's condensed soup. pass it on. campbell's.® it's amazing what soup can do.™ that's why there's lubriderm® daily moisture. it contains the same nutrients naturally found in healthy skin. skin absorbs it better and it lasts for 24 hours. later gator. lubriderm. your moisture matched. but the financial landscape is still full of uncertainty. in times like these, you need an experienced partner to look out for you. heads up! and after 300 years we have gotten pretty good at that. >>> welcome back to "first look." i'm veronica del la cruz, and here are the stories making headlines this morning. >>> north korean state media reports kim jong il has appointed his son, kim jong-un. the promotion came just hours before a rare party ruling meeting to elect top leadership. >>> venezuela had the hugo chavez says his government is carrying out initial studies into starting a nuclear energy program. chavez, a close ally of iran and defended their nuclear program, brought the issue up during a news conference monday saying venezuela needs nuclear energy for peaceful purposes. >>> in georgia last night, a prisoner who tried to kill himself last week by slashing his arms and throat was executed. 31-year-old brandon joseph rode was put to death for killing three people in a burglary back in 2000. >>> a dallas judge has overturned the 1993 conviction of a death man who was sent to prison for the rape of a 5-year-old girl, despite lack of evidence linking him to the attack. 30-year-old steven brody is expected to be released sometime today. >>> and the multimillionaire owner of the segway company is dead after apparently falling off a cliff when riding one of the two machines. the 62-year-old was testing a cross-country version of the segway near his estate in england sunday when he lost control of it. >>> now here's a look at how wall street will kick off the day. the dow opens at 10,112 after falling 48 points yesterday. the s&p last 6 points and the nasdaq fell 11. taking a look at overseas trading. in tokyo, the nikkei dropped 107 points, while in hong kong, the hang seng dropped 230. >>> on the heels of a strong four-week rally yesterday, wall street investors took a pause, however corporate dealmakers were busy. dallas-based southwest airlines bought air tran for $104 billion. despite the rumblings of higher ticket prices, airtran soared and southwest shot up nearly 9%. >>> more m & a action on the streets. unilever is adding, it resemme and vo5 to its goods. walmart is looking to expand oversees to buy south african retailer mass mart. research in motion is hoping its blackberry playbook will be a game-changer on the market with it's screen and adobe access. no word yet on a release date or price point, but experts expect the notebook to start around $500. >>> ice cream's ben & jerry have decide ed to drop the words "all natural" from their offerings since there certain oils in the ice cream are not all-natural. >>> meanwhile, the federal trade commission says there is no evidence to back up the makers of pom wonderful that it reduces certain harmful health situations. >>> and country's top producer of pumpkin says the crop is healthy and cans are arriving in stores. last year, pumpkin shortages added increased to the pumpkin mixes. >>> instead of counting sheep try running through a meadow. mainly women 55 and older were focused on in a study who didn't do much exercise or had difficulty falling asleep. after 16 weeks on an aerobics training program, the lead researcher reported most poor sleepers became good sleepers. is that all it takes? for more information on this and other health stories, head to the web, check out our health page, find it online at msnbc.com. >>> once again, the phillies win the east, the yanks and rays fail to clinch and the passing of a legend. plus the bears scamper past the packers in a classic monday night match-up. yo your look at sports is straight ahead. ♪ love like yours will surely come my way ♪ ♪ a-hey, a-hey-hey ♪ every day, it's getting faster ♪ [ male announcer ] at&t and blackberry have teamed up to evolve the smartphone. business, meet fun. fun, business. at&t. rethink possible. ♪ i was young and i was stupid ♪ i had just turned 17 ♪ a harmonica and a box guitar ♪ ♪ in a canvas-covered wagon stuffed... ♪ [ male announcer ] while the world's been waiting on the electric car, maybe the whole time, the electric car has been waiting for this... the wattstation from ge. it's going to change the way we get to where we all want to go. ♪ i didn't think much of it till i took it apart ♪ so when you turn up the heat, secret turns up the protection. odor-fighting microcapsules are triggered by your body heat to release a fresh scent. for 24 hour odor protection. ♪ >>> welcome back to "first look." in sports, two undefeated and storied franchises got together last night in chicago as the bears and packers renewed the nfl's oldest rivalry. here's nbc's fred roggin. >>> good morning. for the third straight week, the monday night football game decided in the final minutes. bears and packers. pick it up in the fourth. packers up, 10-7. they made a huge mistake. kicked it right to devon hester. he hit the hole, there he goes. 62 yards to the house. his eighth punt return for a touchdown in his career and the bears were up, 14-10. but the packers would answer. aaron rogers scrambled and he scrambled, and he called his own number. dove for the pylon, and he was in for the score. a gutsy play, and the packers led 17-14. final seconds, tied at 17. bears milked the clock. robbie gold came in and nailed a 19-yarder. bears remain undefeated with a 20-17 win. >>> some sad news from the football world. hall of fame quarterback and kicker george blanda passed away yesterday. he played pro football for 26 years, retiring one-month shy of his 49th birthday. he place for the bears, colts and oilers, but will best be remembered for his years with with the raiders. >>> baseball, yankees and blue jays. this is not how you want to start a game. a stumble off the mound. that's an unusual first pitch. with a start like that you can only get better. at one point he struck out seven straight. he finished with 9 ks. blue jays put up five in the third. yanks missed the chance to clinch a playoff spot. >>> speaking of clenching, phils had the champagne on ice. a towering shot, philadelphia led it, 1-0. that's all they need because roy halladay was dealing. gave up two hits, struck out espinoza for the complete game. the phils win their fourth straight nl crown. >>> rays and marlins, needed extra innings. ended with a walk-off single in the 11th. braves won, 2-1, now a half game up in the wild card race. that's your "first look" at sports. i'm fred roggin. >>> now for another quick look at the weather, here is dominica davis with the weather forecast. you have better news this time around, don't you? i do. >> you do? >> you just need to go to the west coast for it. the middle part of the country looks great. temperatures are nice and mild there. high pressure in the west. they are finally getting a break from the heat. here's all the bad weather, in the east coast. that's where all the rain is pushed. moisture moving up from the southeast to right through the mid-atlantic and up through the northeast. the i-95 corridor will be a wet one once again for today. you can see heavy shower now from the district out through pittsburgh, that's where we are looking at some of the heaviest rain. today, i don't think we'll see all-day downpours but some downpours from time to time and that risk of severe weather will ramp up for this afternoon. today the worst weather is along the east coast. dry through the middle part of the country with high pressure in control. temperatures running where they should be this time of year. out to the west, the heat backing off. still hot in l.a., though. tomorrow be much of the same from the west to the middle part of the country. the east coast does get a break in the rain. but then it quickly returns thursday with another system that comes up from the southeast and then we'll dry out for the weekend. veronica? >> that is not good news. >> sorry. >> not good news. there's so much green on the map on the east coast, i can't even see it anymore. we have to figure something out. >> i will. >> all right. >>> the latest lindsay lohan lunacy, plus comedian and talk show host lopez may divorce his wife but he may never get away from her. you are watching "first look" on msnbc. ♪ for he's a jolly good fellow ♪ the meeting's tomorrow in dallas ♪ ♪ we need to finish those projections ♪ ♪ then output the final presentations ♪ ♪ sally, i'm gonna need 40 copies, obviously collated ♪ what's going on? when we're crunched for time, brad combines office celebrations with official business. it's about efficiency. 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"us weekly" also spent the weekend calling photo agencies, shopping pictures of herself posing for $10,000 in her alcohol monitoring ankle bracelet. >>> the 1930s hollywood beauty who gave up acting only to later return as the oldest ever academy award winning nominee for "titanic" has died at the age of 100. >>> and conan o'brien's band leader max weinberg won't be joining him on his new late-night show. >>> finally, showbiz divorces aren't rare, but in the case of george lopez and his wife there is an unusual wrinkle. the two are amicably splitting after 17 years. but george can never truly say good-bye to ann. you see, five years ago when he was suffering from a genetic kidney disorder, she saved his life by donating to him one of her kidneys. i don't know, kind of a slap in the face there. that's sad to see hem break up after all that. they went through a lot. >> i know. i know. we'll let them work it all out hopefully. this is "first look" on msnbc, stay tuned, because "way too early" with willie geist starts right now. >>> while the president hits the campaign trail for democrats today, joe biden spent the day yesterday telling his party to stop whining and then defending the white house against some of the claims made in bob woodward's new book. the question is how bad were biden and obama fighting over afghanistan? >>> in a terrible twist of fate, the owner of the company that makes the segway, that two-wheeled electric scooter, dies in a segway accident. the question is, can they story really be true? >>> sarah palin makes a front-row appearance on "dancing with the stars" in support of her daughter bristol. the question is was governor palin rea
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other interviews. he sat down with brian williams with nightly news and did an interview with jon stewart for the daily show. all in the space of one day. the former president is 86 years old. he has been on as we say a very intense cross-country book tour as he promotes his latest book, the white house diaries. we will have more on what happened with jimmy carter. all we know is that the 86-year-old former president is hospitalized in cleveland. also this hour, with the election only 35 days from now, the white house is taking on its own base. the president today trying to rally students at the university of wisconsin in madison saying it is irresponsible to sit out the election. the "wall street journal" poll shows 70% of those questioned do not feel that the recession is over even though economists say it is. what does it mean for the approximate the and the party in power? bo biden and education nation. fixing america's broken system. what works and what doesn't? are we at a tipping point for reform? the man who coined the phrase wait for example super man. and the reverend al sharpton on the role the communities must play. from the top-ranked nation of education, the director general. i'm andrea mitchell live in new york. we will track all of the information on former president jimmy carter's condition when we get it. president obama is trying to fire up the base. the democratic base in wisconsin. a new rolling stone interview details frustration towards democrats. they are sitting on the political sidelines. in the the side said bringing about change is hard. that's what i said in the campaign. it has been hard and we have lumps to show for it. if people want to take their ball and go home, folks weren't serious in the first place. vice president biden echoed that message on the last word with lawrence o'donnell last night. >> there is some on the democratic base, not the core that are angry because we didn't get every single thing they want. it's time to buck up here and understand that we can make things better. continue to move forward. >> well, father and son with us now. delaware attorney beau biden. thanks for joining us. general, let's talk about the democratic base and the president now in wisconsin telling rolling stone it's irresponsible to sit out the election. the vice president, your dad has no apologies for talking about the winers in manchester, new hampshi hampshire. what do you think the challenge is for democrats? >> to get out the vote. it's as simple as that. i can speak best to delaware. we have 47% of the state registered democrats. the challenge for me and chris and john is to get out the vote in the state of delaware. you will see that happen. i can speak to what's going on in our little state and others can speak better to what's going nationally. that's what we are doing. chairman is coming tonight in conjunction with my dad to penn state and the president at wisconsin. that's what you are seeing happen right now. democrats rallying to present america a choice. there is a stark choice. >> even in delaware, people are affected by the nbc "wall street journal" poll. 70% of those questions saying they still feel they are in the recession. how does the party in power combat that? >> what you will see in delaware is two democrats being sent to washington. chris will hit the ground running as the u.s. senator and i predict he will win with a lot of effort on our part. john carney will go to the house of representatives and take back a seat that has been held for 18 years by republicans. we are working with the governor to create jobs and our governor should be given great credit for that. that's where you see chris coombs and john carney focussed on making the case to the people of our state. >> your father's seat, let's talk about christine o'donnell. here's tape from one of the old interviews with politically incorrect. >> you know what, evolution is a myth and even darwin himself. >> evolution is a smith have you ever looked at a monk he? >> then why weren't monkey still evolving into humans? >> it takes time. >> your dad said to lawrence o'donnell on last word that the voters should take and democrats should take christine o'donnell seriously and sarah palin and treat them with respect. with all due respect, how do you take that seriously? >> look, i take in my public live and my dad has and republicans and democrats who i respect take their opponents seriously. i know that's what i have done and what he does and what chris is doing. this is not about what christine may or may not have said, but the choices they offer the state of delaware. in delaware the choices that chris is offering will prevail. the same goes for john carney running for the house of representatives against a person who shares the same beliefs as christine o'donnell. i have known her a while and she is say nice enough person, but she should be taken seriously. >> let me ask you about foreign policy and you are speaking out on foreign policy. you are back from iraq and we are so happy. i know from talking to your dad and mom when we were in baghdad together how happy they are. we thank you for your service. what about bob wood ward's new book and what it describes as the internal debate where your father argued strenuously against the strategy and the troop surge in afghanistan. as we look forward, what are the prospects in afghanistan? maybe they should have taken your father's advice. >> my father obviously speaks for himself and he's a huge proponent and supporter of the decisions that the president made as to how to pursue this war. i have friends that are on the way in iraq and in afghanistan right now. my experience is in iraq. this is going to be a very important time for the nation. we will have a review as the president calls for from the out set in december i believe. the president and the vice president on the same page. i have not had a chance to read the book, but i let my dad speak for himself. he was asked for his opinion by the president and gave it to him and fully supports the course of action that the president took. >> thank you so much. attorney general beau biden running for reelection in delaware. thank you for joining us. >> good to be on the show. >> be sure to see all the results of our new poll on nbc nightly news with brian williams. check local listings. we are following breaking developments, reports that former president jimmy carter, the 86-year-old on a book tour, an active book tour was hospitalize and taken when they landed in cleveland and met by paramedic who is took him to the hospital in cleveland. apparently melinda ryan from our land bureau spoke with the carter said he was airsick and had difficulties and may have vomited. meanwhile the bookstore in cleveland where the president was going to hold the book sign suggest told they have not heard any official word about whether or not the former president will be attending. we will be on top of that. meanwhile back here in new york, education nation continuing today on the networks of nbc. our country's urban schools are under particular pressure, desperately needing resources. al sharpton is the president and founder of the national action network fighting on the frontlines for schools and students and our teachers. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> reverent sharpton, we focus so much on teachers and the obstacles and the contract disputes and tenure and all those. what can communities and parents do to support our kids? >> if we do not deal with the fact that parents and community must be involved and see this as a critical issue, we can do all that we are talking about with the administrators and teachers and it won't be enough. the national action network and i got involved in serious education reform, part of what i have done is talked to the parents. talked to the disk jockeys and the radio announcers and the minsters. people on the ground. we must create a culture of expectation. we must create a culture where young people understand that it is not only the right thing to do, but the mandatory thing to do. if you don't have that at home and in the community, the teachers are fighting an uphill battle. i want teacher accountability, but i want to work with the teachers in challenging parents. how we can do that together without having community involvement. we are puting it all on the system and none of the responsibility on us and that won't work. >> that said, there some people who accuse the traditional simple rights organizations of being too sympathetic and too much in league with the unions. they share other goals. they are not being on the front edge of performance enough. is that fair? >> when i started with my colleagues in civil rights didn't understand why president obama stood out. this is not about being anti-union. this is about being anti-dropout rate. we have kids in our communities in many cities, 50% dropout rates. i think it's about challenging not only the unions, but challenging administrators and parents alike. i'm glad to see people saying yes, we have to adjust to the times and some leaders are not there yet. some parents are not there yet. you can't keep doing the same thing and expect different results. we have the highest dropout rates we have seen in our history. we are 21 and 25 when it comes to math and science in world data and statistics women can't sit back and hold anybody as a sacred count. everybody must be accountable. >> speaking of that, i have to ask you about one of the partners on education reform, newt gingrich. you worked with him effectively in a bipartisan way and i know you don't have to answer. what do you make of this? you know what the quote is going to be. what if president obama is so outside or comprehension that only if you understand kenyan, anti-colonial behavior can you piece together his actions. that is the most accurate model for his behavior. what do you make that was? >> it's a maying. it was president obama in our meeting that said he wanted mr. gingrich and i to go on the tour and i did. newt and i probably don't agree today is tuesday, but the thing that i didn't understand about the quote is he is saying that there is something wrong with being anti-colonial? the kenyan plot is questionable enough, but is he praising colonialism? he needs to as astute as he is, let's review that america is not supposed to be a country endorsing colonialism. >> clearly he is try to feed the rumor hmongoring. >> and who he is and that's unfortunate. i think that newt gingrich is smarter than that. that level of discourse is what we don't need. as he and i tour and talked about education. i talked to him about those statements. i think they are not responsible. >> like to hear that conversation. >> it won't be as civil as you and i just had. >> always civil with you. up next, the custody battle with an american father fighting to bring his young sons home from egypt. using education to break the cycle of poverty. more on the education nation with geoffrey and live pictures of the hospital in cleveland where former president jimmy carter was reportedly taken after feeling airsick on a flight. this is andrea mitchell reports only on msnbc. oln honest? 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>> it was painful. the boys were in a restricted room and there were a number of people including my ex-wife and her family. they were obviously on script themselves. they had things that they felt they needed to immediately get off their chest and acted uncomfortably like they were being watched and would be held accountable for anything they did during and after the visit. >> you were granted sole custody and after that your wife apparently took the children. you found passports that were altered in some way. what you want from egypt is, were they issued passports or did she violate egyptian law and have possible charges? >> that's right. the facts are that the government gave her passports in the name of power. >> not bower with a b. >> the government gave this woman two false passports and she came to the united states and with the passports she stole two american children off of our soil. the point is, was the government complicit or was the egyptian government not? they were stolen from this country. my children were stolen from this country. i'm asking for the government to return them. >> we know hillary clinton has spoken to the president about this and the powerful chairman of the foreign relations committee has been involved. you are a resident of massachusetts and he is your senator. the fact is that egypt is not a sig tori to the international convention, the geneva treaty which we covered previously on the case with the goldman case where brazil was a sig tori, but the courts intervene and obstructed for all those years. egypt is not. if you can't get your ex-wife extradited, what is the hope of getting these boys home? >> the fact is that even the supreme court calls kidnapping a child. what i saw last week in egypt is child abuse. every day the boys are there is child abuse. the fact remains, we give this country $1.5 billion in aid. there lots of ways to choose to get my boys back and we should. >> we are going to stay on this story. you know we will. all of our wishes are with you. >> thank you so much. >> thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> this update on the breaking news. a statement from the carter center, while on a flight to cleveland, the former president developed an upset stomach and upon arrival she was taken to metro health hospital for observation. the carter center said he is resting comfortably and expected to resume his book tour this week. we'll be right back. maybe you want to provide meals for the needy. or maybe you want to help when the unexpected happens. whatever you want to do, members project from american express can help you take the first step. vote, volunteer, or donate for the causes you believe in at membersproject.com. take charge of making a difference. of lick racing, starting with you, dsrl. stufy, make the call. ♪ [ dialing ] [ beeping ] [ beeping ] [ beeping ] [ eli ] it's go time. ♪ ♪ >>> as we continue our search for solutions, important lessons to be learn friday other countries. finland to be followed by south korea and singapore are far out front. students in finland rank number one among more than 30 developed nations. sad to say the usa ranks 24th in math and 17th in science and 10th in literacy. the achievement gap between the united states and top performing nations is the economic equivalent of a permanent recession. an expert on education serves as general of the ministry of education. he took part in a lively discussion as part of our education nation summit here at 30 rock. thanks for staying us with. you brought up how finland managed to achieve the top ranking. in fact, in finland, you don't intensively emphasize math and science which people talk about here as the silver bullet and don't give bonuses to teachers. you do though have something we found as a common denominator among the nations. the teaching is the highest ranking profession. more than doctors and more than lawyers and certainly more than wall street merger and acquisition types. this is a highly ranked valued profession. is that the secret? >> it's part of the secret, certainly. of course teaching is always a cultural thing. i think teachers are valued in many countries, but what we have been able to do in finland is systematically been securing the teaching profession so that it remains interesting and attractive and more on the profession for teachers. in my country we don't test students or test teachers like you do here in the united states. this is one of the things that keeps this group of young individuals flowing into the teaching. they want to be the ones who have the authority to assess and evaluate the learning. >> 100% of finland's teachers come from the top third of the graduating class. here in the united states in elementary and primary schools, 21%. of our top-ranked or top third graduates up teaching and retention rates are low and how do you maintain this high scannedard? >> we put a lot of quality of entry. this was the key thing. >> the recruitment. >> we're set up those who come to teaching and study to become teachers carefully and provide them free education in a good university in finland. we than point when the students start the first year that these will be the good teachers. when they go to school, they will stay there. >> president obama said yesterday on the today program as part of our education nation summit, you would be open to extending the school year. this was costly for us in terms of staffing and custodial staffing as well for keeping the schools open at a time of budget cuts. finland does not in fact have longer school years. that's not part of the solution. >> i think we should look at not the school year, but the overall instruction that our students and pupils are having. i found it a little bit difficult to understand how it would be possible and this situation that you have where you are spending 40% more than we are doing in finland for education to extend or add something without taking something away. >> you don't spend as much as we do, but you have better results. >> that's true. the spending here per student is 40% higher than in finland. >> great to meet you as part of education nation. i will introduce to you arnie duncan in a couple. you have important lessons for us to learn. >> thank you, a pleasure. >> coming up next from cradle to college, more with geoffrey canada. updating the breaking news, the carter center said jimmy carter is resting comfortably after developing an upset stomach on the flight to cleveland. he was taken to the hospital for observation and expected to resume his book tour later this week. i jumped the gun. he is 85 for another day and a half. he turns 86 on friday, october 1st. we'll be right back. i didn't miss a premium payment for 10 years. and i'm worried if i lose my job, i won't be able to afford insurance. when i graduated from college, i lost my health insurance. the minute i got sick, i lost my insurance. not anymore. not anymore. not anymore. america's healthcare reforms change lives for the better. to find out how it can help you, visit us at americasfairhealthcare.org it's not just fair, it's the law. bankers are known to be a little bit in love with themselves.. trust me. are we going up? 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i think this is a phony argument. it's clear to me you need both. you can't have young people growing up in places that people wouldn't want to walk their dogs. they would be terrified. we expect children to live and think that's the reality. we think that we have a responsibility in those places to really change those communities and you have to go in and talk to adults and rally people around and fix things up and get rid of the graffiti. kids have to say the adults are here and they are protecting us and creating a community. that's what the harlem children zone does. >> how late are the schools open? >> until 9:00 or 10:00 because kids need a place. so many parents are working and nobody is home with the kids. if you leave kids by themselves, we all have seen the lord of the flies, it's not a good deal. kids need to be under the watchful eyes of adults making sure they have somethings to positive to do and not getting into mischief. >> the teachers work for less money in difficult neighborhoods, but they want to be there. they are inspired. >> we find teachers literally by the thousands who want to come in and make a difference. that's what they want. they say are you really going to give me a chance to educate these kids? we say yes. we will do everything you need us to do to educate the kids. they are thrill and excited. they say this is a team that is pulling out all the values and say move them out of the way. let's educate these kids. there million was teachers looking for the opportunity. let me do my job by removing the obstacles. if the teachers need to work longer, they need to. we support them. if teachers need to do saturdays, we do. we make sure our teachers will be successful. i think there is a sense from them as professionals that this is what i signed up for. success, not failure. not mediocrity, but success. teachers want to be successful and when you allow them to do their job, they want to do it. >> one of the participants in my panel said we emphasize the wrong things here. when the president goes to visit some schooly, he will leave a sign for basketball, sports are great. i'm a sports fan. why weren't we emphasizing physics or math? why is america's culture so focused on competitive sports. terrific, but not on competitive math prizes. >> here we have young people really respecting the queues we give them of what's important. when you have the school standing up and cheering because some guy or gal can hit a three-pointer and the kid who is getting great scores, no one mentions that. what do you think those young kids want to be? 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>> good afternoon, andrea. prime minister netanyahu gave his word to the people of israel and to the palestinians and the united states that the moratorium would be 10 months in length. it was a one-time unprecedented offer, the word unprecedented was used by secretary of state clinton to describe it. no other prime minister had done that. a-time effort to get them to the negotiating table. the palestinians frittered away about 8 1/2 months of that and came to the table at about the end. >> worry all due respect, that acknowledging that it took them 10 months to agree to the terms, they were demanding preconditions and now we are where we are today. the moratorium expire and construction is beginning again. the palestinians now have given an extra week to wait for the arab league to come on monday and give them the go or no go to continue with talks. is israel prepared to stop construction if the talks are able to continue and look as though they might be fruitful? >> it's essential to continue that thought that the prime minister's word will be essential as the process goes forward. he will be asking israel to make inkrezible sacrifices to take risks for peace and he is going to have to go to the people and say trust me on this one. his word is very important. with that, israel is undertaking to exercise restraint and responsibility and limits in its construction. it will build no additional settlements and won't expand physically and won't incentivize israelis to move to the elthsmentes and any construction in the territories will be similar to that of a rate that took place in previous rounds of israeli negotiations. such as the 2008 negotiations and then prime minister olmert. we are not making any preconditions. we are not telling them that they have to dismantle terrorist structures. we have four citizens killed at the beginning of the talks. we didn't say we were not going to sit down unless they stopped terror. we don't say that palestinians have to unite and we are willing to discuss the palestinian future with half of the leadership of the palestinians. we want to sit down and negotiate. we call for them to do the same. >> ambassador, one thing that is in play is what to do about the convicted israeli spy who has been in prison for all of these decades. there is some talk that there might be some negotiations going on. would it be helpful if the united states were to release jonathan? >> we hope for his release. it is always a part of our agenda in our discussions with the administration. >> one other quick question. iran accused israel of being behind the computer worm and the nuclear facilities have been attacked. there has been a suggestion in the media at least that this is so sophisticated that only a state government could have launched this worldwide worm and that could either be the united states or intelligence or israel's. iran is accusing israel. are they responsible for the computer worm? >> i appreciate the compliment for the technological prowess, andrea, but the fact is there many countries deeply concerned about the nuclear program that a nuclear arm iran would pose a mortal threat. >> the computer virus? is that launched from israel? >> i can't say, but the computer virus or not computer virus, iran is committed to the nuclear program and israel expects the world community together with the united states to act to prevent iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. >> a non-denial denial. always great to see you. >> martin fletcher who covered the mideast for 35 years. walking israel, a personal search for the soul of the nation. what israel's 100 mile coastline from lebanon to gaza. mart sin here with us now. the search for the soul of a nation, an extraordinary journey note just this journey, but your journey. what have you learned? >> i started out on the journey because i thought that coast of israel, the size of new jersey. it has to be the most interesting 100 miles in the world bar none. the israel i grew to love over the many decades and decades i have been living and working in the country, it's in such dire straights and need of peace with its neighbors. the israeli arabs and one million arabs are living in peace and relative harmony with jews in the country. i didn't understand the extend to which that is an indicator of waiting in an ideal world. >> for many of us, it seems in the last year security has been less of an issue. it seems as though israel and the various groups within israel are living together much more peaceably with the exception of gaza. are you hopeful as these talks have resumed now? they are in advance, but we presume that george mitchell will be able to get them together under some diplomatic device? are you hopeful they can achieve something in the year's time? >> one of the reasons i stated is that i always believed that peace is just around the corner. i wanted to be there for the moment it happened. it has been there for 35 years. it hasn't happened yet. is this the time? frankly i doubt it. the urgency coming from the united states administration which is a sad comment. it should be coming from israelis and the lead is there. the urgency from the leaders is more determined by america's urgency than the urgency felt by the people. it's a sad comment. >> martin fletcher, friend, colleague, ally and as brian williams wrote on the book cover, extraordinary. nothing else like it. no better guy for understanding israel. walking israel. thank you so much for everything you have done over these years and continue to. what political story will be making headlines in the next 24-hours? that's next right here. 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[ wind howling ] nissan. innovation for safety. innovation for all. they're seeing -- >> isn't this normal tightening, closing? >> well, some of it, yes. absolutely. and some of its effect that they've had a big fund raising advantage. and they've used that for tv ads. when you're divining your opponent as not the best person in the world, and your opponent isn't on tv, those numbers aren't going to help a little bit. the question is in the next month we're going to see republicans get on tv. do those numbers snap back to where they were in august when democrats were kind of woe is me, and the house is gone, and the senate is gone, and, you know, we're going to lose everything, or do the gains that they've made, and these are marginal. we're not talking about big gains. republicans are still going to pick up seats, andrea. but do they hold? that's what everyone is in a wait and see pattern right now. the thing we do know for sure, very volatile electorate. lot of vulnerability. >> obviously the economy, the recession that supposedly ended with 70% of in the nbc news "wall street journal" don't feel it's ended. who could blame them with the current unemployment? voters still blame the former president george bush for the recession. not as much as in the past if you look at these numbers. about 56% now say that obama inherited these problems where as the beginning of the year 65% said that they blamed him. and also the whole question is who is responsible. is it the president's policies or not? twice as many people now, 32% to 17% say that president obama's policies were responsible for the problems that we're having. >> yeah, that trend line if you're barack obama -- >> it's not good. >> -- or if you're a democrat running for congress, it's not good. the president will be happy that still many more people blame the former president than the current president, but that trend line is not good, andrea. at some point in the relatively near future, it looks like it will come after the november election, but at some point in the relatively near future this is going to be barack obama's economy. like it or not. he will not be able to use the republicans drove this economy into the ditch and we're trying to drive it out. he's going to own it. he needs the unemployment numbers to come down. he needs some positive signs because as you point out, when seven in ten people feel as though the recession isn't over, it doesn't matter what the economic indicators are showing. perception can trump reality as it relates to the economy. >> what are we looking for in the next 24 hours? >> in california meg whitman is doing everything she can. $120 million of her own dollars already. this is the former ebay ceo. a debate tonight against jerry brown, he's running for the job he first held 40 years ago. so this is a big huge important race, not just because of the size of california. but whitman is in some ways the model of what republicans believe they can win on. she's running as an outsider, running against jerry brown, like it or not, it's odd to say he's anned insider now, but wh you've been in politics that long, you are. >> he's a tough debater indeed. >> watch an experience. >> tomorrow on the program, new york school's chancellor joe klein, democratic chairman tim kaine and chair of the democratic campaign committee, chris van hollen. tamron hall is here with a look at what's coming up next on msnbc. >>> hey, andrea. in the next hour we're still following breaking news that former president jimmy carter has been hospitalized after being airsick on a flight. >>> plus, president obama tells democrats to, quote, buck up in a new interview. will the white house blame the democratic base if the midterms are a bust? >>> and our special education nation continues with a look at the the shortage of male teachers. why is only one out of every four teachers a male? what they're really doing is putting our security at risk. my big brother went to iraq to keep us safe. he came home in a flag-draped coffin. america lost another hero. big oil wants to talk about costs? don't let big oil lie to you about what our dependence really costs. you know, if we had let fedex office print our presentation, they could have shipped it too. saved ourselves the hassle. i'm not too sure about this. look at this. 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. >> good evening from new york. i'm lawrence o'donnell. my first guest of the night, distinguished gentleman from delaware, vice president joe biden. we taped our interview earlier tonight. mr. vice president, thanks for joining us tonight. >> i'm happy to be with you. >> at the u.n. last week, president obama asked the israelis to extend the freeze on west bank construction but they allowed the freeze to expire at midnight last night. the west bank settlers today have been celebrating, some refusing to build. should netanyahu extend the freeze on the build and if he doesn't are the peace talks doomed? >> i don't think the peace talks are doomed. it's a politically difficult situation where both mr. abbas as well as prime minister netanyahu. the good news is the talks have not ended. you have abbas saying -- president abbas saying he would take under consideration what the next move would be. you have netanyahu saying he wants to continue the talks. george mechel is headed to the region as i speak. we still hope there will be a way to bridge this divide to keep the talks going. >>
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comes after vice president biden last night reiterated his message and told lawrence o'donnell that the same democrats need to buck up. he's here in albuquerque today. thomas, the line between campaigning and policymaking is always pretty tenuous and today is pretty obliterated and today the president will take out after republicans that pledge to america that they unveiled last thursday and the white house has been poking holes in it ever since and taking target practice and all the things cut in education is the theme if spending levels were frozen at 2008 levels as house republicans have proposed, thomas. >> as i look behind you, i think i'm looking at crawford. >> you're not the first person to point that out. the press working space is actually in a horse corral here. >> you know, just an observation from one guy to another. mike viqueira, thank you so much. >>> vice president joe biden is soften his message to fellow democrats, but not by very much. during a visit to new hampshire on monday he said, "stop whining." take a look at the alternatives and that drew angry responses
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blog. rachel@msnbc.com and our free podcast is at itune. now after his spectacularly successful debut, it is time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell. >> i'd be nowhere without any lead-in. >> good luck. break a leg. >> thanks, rachel. >>> in the words of deepak chopra, when you struggle with your partner, you are struggling with yourself. after months of distrust, suspicion, infidelity and lying, democratic leaders push back against a loud, frustrated activist base and it turns out you really do hurt the ones you love. >> you don't have to apologize for being emotional about your dad who served our country as a marine. that's -- i get emotional. >> the president now comes face-to-face with the raw emotion of his base on the campaign trail. the base angry and fired up at the white house. >> those who didn't get everything they wanted -- >> you guys beat up the base and brow beat them too much and didn't offer progressive enough agenda. >> the base wants red meat. they don't want a lecture. >> there's no read maet to serve between now and 'lekz day. it has simplified its message to the left side of their party. >> the base should, quote, stop whining. >> they're frustrated at what they've been able to do is kind of extraordinary. >> white house supporters insist it's not that bad. >> ryan white, hiv/aids. i can go on and on and on. >> frustration on the left provokes an ultimatum. >> it's time to just buck up here. >> about this disaffected base telling them to come on, you got to get off it, you got to get out to the voting booth. >> shake these base democrats and get them to pay attention. >> the message? historic change has come and more change is coming but not if you sit out this election. >> 35 days until election day. >> to a certain extent still blame the former president george bush for the recession. 56% now say that president obama inherited his problem. >> the challenge -- bring back the passion and get back into action and wake up to reality. >> democrats rallying to present america with a choice and there's a stark choice. >> understand that we can make things better, continue to move forward. >> i feel like i'm in the middle of a family feud. >> good evening from new york. i'm lawrence o'donnell. yesterday in new hampshire vice president joe biden told liberals unsatisfied with the progress of the obama administration to, quote, stop whining. later on this program, he changed his message to, buck up. which put him in perfect sync with president obama who in a "rolling stone" interview out today took his, quote, irresponsible base to task for their lack of enthusiasm and told them to, quote, buck up. the progressive blog firedoglake responded, really, dude? that's your message? i can't stand you, now go vote for me? and so the battle for the soul of the democratic party is joined with just five weeks to go before a possible republican takeover of congress. joining me now to discuss the obama interview that has driven today's news cycle is "rolling stone" executive editor eric bates who was in the room with the president during that interview and we're joined by one of the leaders of the people president obama is telling to buck up, adam green of the progressive change campaign committee. thank you both for joining us. now, adam, no whining, okay? >> okay. >> no whining. >> that's a deal. >> just don't whine, we're going to start with eric. eric, let's start with another quote in your interview, where the president says, if people now want to take their ball and go home, that tells me folks weren't serious in the first place. if you're serious, now's exactly the time that people have to step up. now, here we have another "rolling stone" quote that's causing trouble. this is after general mcchrystal ended his career with "rolling stone" quotes thanks to you guys. was this one of those things like in the mcchrystal interview where he maybe didn't quite realize what the impact would be once this was in print? >> no, i think in this case the president knew exactly what he was doing. he sends a clear message to democratic voters that they need to get out to the polls this november. i think the white house position and the white house and the president's own perspective comes across very clearly in this interview that he feels that they've accomplished a lot of their agenda, that the base needs to realize that, and that the alternative is a lot worse and that it's really not acceptable to sit on the sidelines. the change is very hard, it takes a lot of time, and if you're serious about it, you have to keep at it. >> in that moment in the room, did you have that sense that in this particular statement, this is something he really meant to say? or it wasn't some parenthetical to something else or marking a larger point? what about it made him feel like this is where he really wanted to go? >> it was part of a statement where the interview had actually ended and he left the oval office. >> did he think then that this was not out on the record. >> not at all. he called to us, and said there's one more statement i want to make for the record. we turned our tape recorders back on. and he made a very impassioned statement directed at voters saying, you need to get out and it's really important that you turn out this november and that was part of that statement. >> i got to tell you if the president turns around and walks back in the room and says, oh, there's one more thing that i have to say, that's as deliberate as it gets. how does that statement land on you? does that make sense to you? >> i believe it was intentional. it is important for the white house to know that i'm not aware of a single progressive leader who is telling people not to vote. i think we acknowledge that having the tea party run congress would be a disaster. but we have been consistently telling the president and the democratic party that they need to learn the lessons of the last couple years. the main lesson is you don't give up a fight before having the fight. when someone like joe lieberman is threatening to kill health care reform if it's not in there, you can cut a deal with him behind closed doors or go to his state, use the power of your bully pulpit against him and demand that he be accountable to constituents. we never saw that fighting attitude from the president. and his failure to fright is not impressing leaders. >> david daden said today, he asks this question about president obama's intent. i think you're seeing two years' worth of friction spill out right before an election. either that or the white house has possession of some polling that says that browbeating works. it's one or the other. adam, which does it feel like to you, that this is an emotional moment that the white house and the president are cracking a little bit under this pressure and they're saying things that come from an emotional place or it's the you are a deliberate target of polling that says take a shot at the left, it will help you in the middle? >> i'm pretty sure it's emotional. i know some folks in the white house and they're emotional about this. but unfortunately, the critique is wrong. they keep saying that progressives want obama to do everything and we want him to win 1 h00% on every issue. that's just not true. all we want is before you compromise, before you cave, you need to make the fight. and polling consistently showed during the public option white, during the wall street fight, that if democrats are willing to fight harder not softer, that it would be more popular with the public in addition to being good policy. we're saying to the white house, look, we're with you. our group is making over 500,000 phone calls to get out the vote to democrats. we're getting out the vote. but you need to learn the lesson that if you want to prevent this from happening again, you have to be willing to fight and make your former voters enthusiastic. >> how did you get an interview with the president of the united states? that's not an easy get. then when you are done with a politician, you have to ask yourself, why does he decide to do it? >> we asked that question before we went. we called up the white house, had a series of conversations with him about timing. i think it's clear they know the election is coming up. they know they need to turn people out and to fire up the young voters who came out in such historic numbers in 2008. you see that with the president going to the university of wisconsin and beginning a campaign targeted at young voters. it's sbr intentional -- >> did he agree to do this interview after the mcchrystal interview came out in "rolling stone"? >> absolutely. this is three weeks or so ago that we finalized the arrangements for this interview. >> the president has changed campaign styles as we all now know from the town hall meeting stuff that wasn't going so well, especially the one on cnbc where one of the women in the audience got up and told him that she was exhausted trying to defend him. he's now gone on to the road in big arenas. adam, he's trying to fire up supporters the way he did with you people in big arenas last time around. he was in wisconsin tonight at a big rally. let's take a look. >> we are bringing about change and progress is going to come, but you got to stick with me. you can't lose heart. change is going to come for this generation. if we work for it. if we fight for it. if we believe in it. >> now, that was just the rhetorical warm-up in the big arena. then, adam, he started talking directly to you and your troops. let's listen. >> during the campaign, especially after we had already started winning, you know, the feeling was, well, this is just exciting. you got those nice hope posters, then there was the inauguration and beyonce's singing and bono. and i know sometimes it feels a long way from the hope and excitement that we felt on election day or the day of the inauguration. but i've got to say, we always knew this was going to take time. we always knew this was going to be hard. i said it was going to be hard. remember? i said i was going to tell you some things you didn't want to hear. i said that we were going to have to make some difficult choices. i said not everybody was going to be happy with every single decision i make. you did not elect me to do what was easy. you didn't just elect me to read the polls and figure out how to keep myself in office. you elected me to do what was right. you elected me to do what was right. that was change you could believe in, that i was going to do what was right. >> adam green, your response to the president of the united states. >> look, i love the barack obama of 2008, the one who said in your own quote right there, that he will actually fight, quote, unquote. that's what we need. and when he said, i don't want to do what's easy, well, that's exactly our point to him. it's easy to go behind closed doors with joe lieberman or someone like olympia snowe who are completely out of touch with our constituents and say you have to do the will of the people and say, let's cut a deal even though that caves to big corporations. that's the easy thing. we need him to fight. those people at that rally, they want him to fight. i'm glad he's saying that he will fight, but we're not sure the white house has learned that lesson. >> this president is known as the coolest customer you can possibly deal with. was that your sense being in the room with him during this interview in both his conduct of the interview and the experiences in his presidency that he was talking to you about? >> absolutely. very poised, very in command, very confident, very articulate. no cracks in the facade because i think that's who he is and how he conducts himself. one of the frustrations that comes through in the interview that he feels is that he said, look, we often face a choice between what's going to work politically and what's going to work for governance and we try to make the choice over and over again that will work for governance. now, you may disagree with that, you may feel he hasn't fought hard enough, but in a lot of cases as with the public option, we could have had that fight, it would have pleased "rolling stone" and the huffington post, but in the end we wouldn't have gotten health care reform. he has fought for what's gettable and he feels that people need to recognize how much actually has been won. >> adam, how do you respond to the president on that point, specifically the public option as eric summarized it? >> i thought that was one of the best questions you asked in that interview. his answer was very telling. he could have fought or he could have caved essentially. let me give you one example of the response. if he actually wanted dennis susan itch's vote at the end of the health care fight, what did he do when kucinich was opposing him to the left. he flew to cleveland, he held a big rally and he rallied kucinich's constituents against him and he got kucinich's vote. where was that mentality with joe lieberman and olympia snowe. and the fact that the president of the united states use at bully pulpit against them, i think a lot of progressives were like, you tried your best. but he didn't try. he cut a deal. the public was powerless in the back room deal. we want this president to fight, we want him to succeed. we want the barack obama of 2008 to fight and succeed. >> eric bates and adam green. thank you both for your time tonight. the republican party has its own ideological struggle. charlie crist will tell us what he thinks will happen to the gop after the midterms. >>> and later, levi johnston in the spotlight. we'll talk politics now that he's running for mayor. stand by for breaking news with levi johnston. ♪ the meeting's tw in dallas ♪ ♪ we need to finish those projections ♪ ♪ then output the final presentations ♪ ♪ sally, i'm gonna need 40 copies, obviously collated ♪ what's going on? 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[ tires screech ] the quarter-mile, or a quarter-century? is performance about the joy of driving? or the importance... of surviving? to us, performance is not about doing one thing well. it is about doing everything well. because in the end... everything matters. the best or nothing. that is what drives us. see your authorized mercedes-benz dealer for exceptional offers on the c-class. >>> as the white house struggles to hold on to the hearts and minds of the democratic party faithful, the tea party's battle for the hearts and minds of the republican party rages on. at least until election day. and then maybe the battle will turn into a massacre. the list of establishment republican candidates for the senate defeated by tea party candidates grew longer as the primaries wore on. in kentucky rand paul beat republican establishment candidate tray gracen. sharron angle took down sue lowden. in utah, mike lee took the nomination ousting republican incumbent senator bob bennett. in florida marco rubio was beating florida governor charlie crist so badly in the polls that crist dropped out of the republican primary to run as an independent. that same night joe miller won a tight race in alaska against republican senator lisa murkowski. and two weeks ago in delaware, christine, no relation, o'donnell, beat republican congressman mike castle. two of these losers have not given up. lisa murkowski is now desperately mounting a write-in campaign in alaska knowing full well the last time a senator won a write-in campaign was three years before the 53-year-old murkowski was born. charlie crist had to leave the republican party to get his name on the november ballot as an independent thereby turning the florida senate race into a three-way. marco rubio, an opponent of the president's health care plan, taxpayer funded stem cell research and the confirmations of both sonia sotomayor and elena kagan to the supreme court is running at 40% in the polls while opposition to rubio is running at 51% but is split between governor crist and democratic congressman kendrick meek. i spoke with governor crist in an interview taped earlier tonight. governor crist, thanks for joining us tonight. >> well, it's great to be with you. let me publicly congratulate you on the new show. i think it's great and it's an honor to be on in your first week. >> thank you, governor. you said running as an independent now has liberated you. you feel it has been a liberated feeling from being a republican. what positions do you hold now that you could not hold when you were a republican candidate? >> well, nothing's really changed in that regard. it's a lot more quick to be able to give the response when you're talking about things of supporting education, supporting teachers, making sure that we protect the environment, these were always issues that have been important to me, but it is so liberating in terms of the context of this year particularly because, as you know, the republican party or i should say some in the republican party have taken a very hard turn to the right, like my opponent, marco rubio. as a result of that, i think it's very important to the people of florida, i think the people of our country to have common sense candidates. i've always tried to take a common sense point of view regardless of what the issue might be, whether it's education, whether it's jobs, the economy, reducing taxes, standing up for the people of florida, making sure that they're safe in their communities and homes and that we fight for teachers and students. those have always been issues that are very, very important to me. even as a republican governor, i would reach across the aisle, work with democrats, republicans, independents in order to try to improve the quality of life for my fellow floridians. that's what i would like to do in the united states senate for my fellow floridians and for america. >> are there any positions that you took as a loyal republican that you now would t no take? >> no, not really. let me give you an indication of one that i think may be illustrative. i'm personally pro life, but this year in the florida legislature, they passed a bill that would have required an ultrasound be performed on any woman who was contemplating such and also would require that she have to pay for it. i ended up vetoing that bill because, you know, when it comes to the overall spectrum of things my view is tax cuts, hell yes. your government in your bedroom, hell no. and that sort of really defines charlie crist in terms of i'm a frugal guy. i want to be as careful with the public's dollars as possible, especially in this economy. but i don't want to impose my personal will on other people either. none of us like to be told what to do on any issue, and i think that we need to respect the rights of others. and i think that pretty much illustrates, you know, my point of view as it relates to an issue of social matters. i'm a fiscal conservative who is a social moderate who wants to respect all and make sure that the views of the people are put first rather than the views of the party. >> how about what you said in 2008 as a loyal republican when sarah palin was on the vice presidential slot on the ticket and you said that she would do, quote, a great job as president, not just as vice president. sarah palin would do a great job as president. having had some time to think about that, is that a position you would reconsider? >> well, you know, my concern in this race are the sarahs that live in florida, to be perfectly candid with you. and i'm fighting for them and to give them an independent voice so that in washington they can have an honest broker to try to move forward on jobs, on economic development, on reducing taxes. i mean, we've got a perfect example of how broken washington is right now. you have a democratic president of the united states who proposes tax cuts, and you have the republicans who say no. i mean, you know, if that's not the town standing on its head, i don't know what is. that's why i think it's so important that we have people that go forward, whether michael bloomberg or charlie crist who can be honest brokers to say that republicans have good ideas on cutting taxes and democrats probably have good ideas in investing in a clean economy and technology to produce more jobs. only i in this race can put that forward. i mean, i've got two partisan opponents, one hard left on the democratic side and one hard right on the republican side. but i think really what florida wants is a commonsense approach and a little florida common sense in washington on behalf of our people. >> it seems what you're caught in the middle of is the fight over the soul of the republican party with tea party candidates coming in from, as you put it correctly, i think, the extreme right, challenging you, challenging other more establishment republican candidates around the country. you're one of the few establishment republican candidates at least previously establishment republican still on his feet in some way. you're running second in the polls in florida right now. but within striking distance. is there a real fight over the soul of the republican party in the outcomes that we're going to see in this election, especially in the senate races with the tea party candidates? >> i don't think there's any question about it, lawrence. in fact, i enjoy being a republican of the party of abraham lincoln and teddy roosevelt and ronald reagan. commonsense people who cared about the environment, cared about fundamental fairness to people, talked about the great emancipator, abraham lincoln, and somebody who was always civil to others, ronald reagan. what we've seen, at least in some area of the republican party, the most active areas of the republican party, is more of a shrill tone, if you will, and i think it's unfortunate, instead of the big tent that jack kemp used to talk about, it seems to be a shrinking tent. some of these people that have been nominated around the country, i don't know five weeks from tonight how they're going to be doing, but my guess would be not so well. i think that especially in senate races you have an entire state that's going to weigh in on a race rather than just a district, and that's a much broader audience, if you will, a bigger jury, so to speak. and i think that because of that, you're going to see a different turnout in the united states senate than i think you might in the house of representatives. but only time will tell. you know, five weeks in elections is like five years. so we'll know when november 2nd comes. >> republicans are unifying around their nominees, christine o'donnell in delaware and smf o the flakier nominees they've ended up with this year. but longtime republican strategist richard vigory said something interesting in the sunday times, he said we're all on the same page until the polls close november 2nd, then a massive, almost historic, battle for the heart and soul of the republican party begins. is that the way you see it, that this unity that the party is pretending to have around some of these nominees is a mirage and no matter what the outcome, whether those nominees win or lose, the republican party is going to have to figure out what it really stands for after this election? >> i don't think there's any other way to put it. i think that's exactly right. i think that once it becomes november 3rd, the day after the election, it's off to the races as it relates to the presidential campaigns. and it's in that structure that you'll see both on the republican side and what's going to be the future. is it going to be a party that jack kemp used to talk about that had a big tent, that wanted to be more broad in its appeal? or is it going to be what we've seen this year, a steadily shrinking party that said you have to be, first, conservative enough, but then it went to the next level, which really turned me off, you have to be pure enough. i'm not sure i know what that means. i just know i don't want to be a part of that. america is a place where we respect independence. we respect the fact that you ought to have the freedom to determine your own destiny and your own future. and what we've seen in a segment of the republican party does not embrace that. i think that's unfortunate. there's a lot of good republicans that are still left. my mom and dad are still republican, my wife is still republican. but i've got a lot of democratic friends in na these days. particularly robert wexler, former congressman endorsed our campaign on sunday. i was very pleased and honored by that. >> governor, quickly, before we go, if you are lucky enough to be sworn in as senator crist by vice president joe biden, will you then on your very first vote vote for the democrat as majority leader or the republican as majority leader? >> well, first, i hope i have that dilemma to face and i believe i will. because floridians ar commonsense bunch of people. but i think that the truth is i want to ask tough questions about the republicans and the democrats if i have the honor of winning. who will help fight for more jobs for the people of florida ? who will work hard for our economy? and who will protect the florida environment and the everglades and maybe sure we have a national catastrophic fund? those are the kind of things and the answers i need to get before i decide one way or the other or to just remain an independent united states senator and fight for the people of florida as best i can. >> so still undecided on your first vote in the senate. governor crist, thank you very much for your time tonight. >> great to be with you. >>> levi johnston has already announced he's running for mayor of wasilla. tonight on "the last word," let's see what else he has to announce. >>> and more sabre rattling from iran. wait until you see the latest and greatest weapon it has acquired. it be cool if cars didn't need keys? 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[ male announcer ] you do, business pro. you do. go national. go like a pro. >>> in 2008, 18-year-old levi johnston was dragged into the national spotlight as the would-be son-in-law of then-vice presidential candidate sarah palin. like the palin campaign, levi's engagement to bristol palin did not achieve its intended result. levi and bristol went their separate ways in 2009. in a bad economy with few marketable skills, levi found ways to market his celebrity and his genetic gifts. he posed for "playgirl" became a tabloid perennial, briefly reunited with bristol, which reignited his celebrity heat and now, bitten by the politics bug, he is a candidate for mayor of wasilla, a job once held by sarah palin. in our spotlight tonight, levi johnston. levi, thanks very much for joining me, coming tall way across the country for our new studio here. you're now planning to run for mayor of wasilla. the election is next year, right, 2011. will you be running as a tea party republican or as an establishment republican? >> that's actually undecided. i'm registered as a republican. there's been, you know, most of my family's republican, i do, however, have one democrat in my family. >> you do? >> i do. i do. >> ooh, what's that like on thanksgiving with the democrat at the table? >> he actually lives in colorado. he doesn't come around much. >> so no problem. >> yeah, i'm not sure on that yet. but there's some talk about what i'm going to do still. >> all right, now, bristol had something to say about you running. let's hear what she had to say with jay leno. >> let me ask you a question. >> yeah. >> would you vote for him? >> well, he needs to move to wasilla, to the city limits. and he needs to get his ged. >> he's got to get a ged. >> so how are you doing on the ged? >> you know, it's ready to go. i imagine here in the next month it will be done, wrapped up. >> you're working on it. >> oh, yeah. >> now next time you get that ged question, between now and then -- >> i can't wait to get it. >> i have two words for you. abraham lincoln. okay? that puts it away. you're done. never graduated from high school. now, you have actually set a record. did you know you have set a political record already. you are officially the most unpopular person ever polled by public policy polling in any state. what they do is they poll politicians within their state for popularity. the previous holder of this title was john edwards. he held that title with a 15% favorable rating and a 72% unfavorable rating in his home state of north carolina. your unfavorable rating is tied with that. that's good news. didn't do any worse than him on that. but in alaska, 6%. you have a 6% favorable. now, your election is not until 2011 so there's time to turn this around. you got to turn that 6% into a 56%. how are you going to do that? >> those numbers don't surprise me. i'm 20 years old. i'm new to politics. i don't know a whole lot, you know? but this is by far the biggest challenge in my life. and i'm looking forward to it. i have a whole year to study up on it. i mean, it's going to be hard work. and you know, going around talking to people. this time next year, i will be ready. and i promise you those numbers will be new. >> let's talk about how you're studying up. when it comes to establishing your world view, i'm just curious. what newspapers and magazines do you read regularly? >> i read "frontiersman" once in a while. >> frontiersman? >> of wasilla. i don't get "the new york times," i don't watch a whole lot of news, i don't watch tv that often. >> okay. and what's your position on global warming? do you believe it's man made or not? >> no, i don't. >> you don't believe it's man made? or you do believe it's man made? >> i don't believe it's man made. >> now, some people have credited the morning-after pill with decreasing the number of abortions. how do you feel about the morning-after pill? >> i feel that's a girl's decision. same with abstinence. i don't believe in abstinence. i feel like if you're having unprotected sex, you get the girl pregnant, you should have the baby. tripp was the best thing that ever happened to me. but at the same time i was young, you know, and i imagine where my life would be without him. but at the same time, you know, i wouldn't trade it for anything. >> do you believe evolution should be taught as an accepted scientific principle or one of several theories? >> you are kind of getting over my head on these things here. yeah, i don't know how to answer that question. >> all right. that's an answer. and that's what i like, is an honest politician who is willing to say, i don't know when he doesn't know. would you support a moratorium on foreclosures to help average americans keep their homes? >> i believe i would. >> in afghanistan, do you believe additional troops, u.s. troops will solve the problem there? >> i have no idea. >> again, that's the kind of honesty that -- maybe alaskans will start to turn your way with that kind of honesty. you are of what used to be called draft age, military service age, and you probably have friends who have been in afghanistan or people you know from alaska who have gone there, but you haven't thought about yet what you would suggest as the best way to go forward there? >> no, i have not. >> the united states, as you know, is deeply unpopular in pakistan. do you think the pakistani government is protecting al qaeda within its borders? >> like i said, i don't want a whole lot of tv. >> "frontiersman" doesn't have a whole lot to say about that, when you're reading "fron teersman"? >> apparently not because i'm not brushed up on that. >> do you believe that the u.s. should negotiate with leaders like president assad and ahmadinejad? >> yeah, i do. i think that we should negotiate with everybody. >> that's the obama position. for a lot of people out there, you got that one right. all those questions are exactly what katie couric asked sarah palin when she was running for vice president, and let me tell you, she struggled. if you think they were tough, you're not the only one who struggled with those. so the question america wants to know -- and by the way, relax. >> i'm good, i'm good. >> i'm done with the politics. have you been watching "dancing with the stars"? i can't because i'm doing this show. >> the only time i watched it was back there in the green room. >> come on, only time. >> that's the only time. i've seen it on youtube once, the first dance she did, two days afterwards, i youtubed it. as far as actually watching the show was a couple minutes ago. >> so what do you do? "dancing with the stars" is on, what are you doing instead? >> better things to do. i've got my son to worry about, my family, stuff to do around the house, i got my friends, reading up on all this stuff, trying to become mayor. i got a job. i have much better stuff to do than sit around watching tv. >> by the way, where is tripp during the whole "dancing with the stars" thing. you're in new york, bristol's in l.a. most of the time now. according to the tabloids, you got a new girlfriend, you want to confirm, deny, you want to just -- >> we did a music video together. and we kicked it off, we had fun. >> kicked it off. >> hanging out. we hung out. we did great, made a great video together. and that's it. >> all right. levi johnston, can't thank you enough for coming across the country and taking on this first national grilling on your political positions. >> i'll be better next time, i promise. >> hey, read a couple more things than "frontiersman." that's going to help with the alaskan voter but an occasional glimpse of "the new york times," they cover that ahmadinejad stuff. three days you'll be up to speed. five days certainly less than a week you'll be up to speed with sarah palin. levi, thanks a lot for coming in. levi johnston, the reality show is "loving levi: the road to the mayor's office." we're supposed to be very, very afraid of the threat from iran. the next generation of military might for that country has been unveiled. and somehow, that makes tonight's rewrite. >>> and later, today's big study. religious people are surveyed to see how much they know about religion. they all would have done better on a sports quiz. we'll hear from the last words religion analyst pen gillette. ♪ [ monkey screeches ] ♪ [ male announcer ] a bath becomes even more pleasurable when you know that your water is being heated in an environmentally conscious way, while saving you hundreds of dollars on your water heating energy bill. introducing the geospring water heater from ge with advanced hybrid technology. heating the water in your home any other way is just going to seem primitive. ♪ s are demanding is just going to seem primitive. more for their money. good. this time, i'm watching fees like a hawk. i hate hidden fees. why should i have to pay for something that i shouldn't have to pay for? 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>> that mean is got to hang out -- >> you go on your own. anthony's going to get me in tonight finally.  >>> time for tonight's rewrite. it's no secret which nation poses the gravest threat to the safety of americans. >> repeated threats, ahmadinejad, iran, that they want to wipe israel off the map. >> iran has been building a covert uranium enrichment facility near qom. >> iran successfully launched a rocket into space. iran needs to be paid attention to. >> obviously, he has threatened israel with being wiped off the face of the earth. >> the list goes on and on of the threats that we have -- that we have made to the iranians and so far no action. >> not only has iran refused to curb its nuclear efforts despite repeated sanctions by the u.s. and united nations, but now they have publicly raised their threat of military aggression with a provocative announcement earlier today. the iranian defense minister unveiled three squad runs of the baval-2. in the iranian government's typically boastful style, the defense minister described his new noisy war-making asset this way. the flying boat is equipped with a machine gun as well as night vision and daytime cameras and is capable of capturing and transmitting images and data. now, i know iran doesn't get msnbc, so you guys in embassy need to let the defense minister know that under no circumstances should he call this a flying boat. you're not going to keep fear alive with flying boats. you're not going to scare a country that flies these things with an announcement that you can now fly these things. and who told you that a single engine propeller driven sea plane with a machine gun could scare any american president since woodrow wilson? see this? we all have one of these. our kids have these. so don't think for a minute that you can scare americans by saying your flying boat is capable of, quote, capturing and transmitting images and data. what happened to you guys? you used to be so dw at scaring us and you've always known that we scare easily. now you're getting lazy. we don't scare that easily. so if you still want to keep fear alive, stick with nuclear. >>> up next, penn jillette on the religion disconnect revealed today. those who know the most about religion are those who, well, come back and we'll tell you. ♪ [ female announcer ] something unexpected to the world of multigrain... taste. delicious pringles multigrain. multigrain pops with pringles. >>> when it comes to questions of god and faith and religion, who should you turn to if you need guidance? the answer might surprise you. the pew forum on religion and public life found that most americans are deeply ignorant about religion. more than 3,400 people were asked 32 questions about the bible, christianity and other world religions along with the principles in the constitution governing religion. and it turns out the americans who know the most are atheists or agnostic. jewish people came in second followed by mormons, white evangelical protestants and white catholics followed by white mainline protestants black protestants and hispanic catholics. dave silverman president of the american atheists told "the new york times" atheism is an effect of that knowledge not a lack of knowledge. i gave a bible to my daughter. that's how you make atyists. joining me now the ate atheist penn jillette is at the rio and you can watch his blog pennpoint. what do you make of atheists knowing more about religion than those who study it on the daily basis. >> a little bit of a cheat. you look at other studies and people who are more educated are apt to be atheists. you don't need that connection. they just know more. you got that problem. it makes the study a little more of a cleat. it is not that they know more about religion but they're better educated in general. >> let me take you through the quiz. >> i'm an exception. i'm not educated. >> here we go. you're stuck. which of the following is not one of the ten commandments? a, do not commit adultery, b do unto others as you would vem them do unto you, c, do not steal, did, keep holy the sabbath? did you hear them all. >> yes, i did. but it's b, do unto others as, that's not a commandment. >> you know what? you're good. i got another one for you. is ramadan the hindu festival of lights, the jewish day of atonement, the islamic holy month? >> it's the islamic holy month. >> c, there you go. third, which bible figure is most closely associated with remaining obedience to god despite suffering. job, elijah, moses, abraham? >> job. >> these are easy. how could anybody get them wrong? next according to rulings by the supreme court is a public teacher permitted to read from the bible as an example of literature? a, yes, b., no. >> if it's literature, yes. >> you got it right. i actually got that one wrong. what was the name of the person whose writings and actions inspired the protestant reformation? martin luther, thomas aquinas, mart mart. >> martin luther. >> you're right again. thanks for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> you can have the last word online at our blog, the lastword.msnbc.com. that's tonight's "last word." tomorrow night among our guests david
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now the people who said, enough, we're not doing this are themselves doing it. >> barack haines obama. >> what held her back before is too hard to resist. of a she and mccain played leader in the republican party, who is there now to tell her now. that does it for us. the last word with lawrence o'donnell. he interviews vice president biden. hi. >> good to be here for the first show. >> we're all pulling for you. >> i could not have a better lead-in. >> break a leg. >> thanks, rachel. 223 years ago tomorrow, congress sent the constitution to the states for ratification. delaware was the first to ratify and became the first state. since then delaware has stayed politely quiet exerting minimal influence on our politics until the first delawarean was elected in 2008 there by opening a senate seat seriously pursued by a former self-described witch turned true believer on tax cuts. delaware's own joe biden will join me to discuss many things, how democrats can counter republican tax cut rhetoric, tea party extremism and hold onto power in the house and senate. >>> all but certain congress will leave without resolving one of the biggest fights of the fall, whether to extend the bush tack cuts. >> the democratic house and senate in a state of paralysis afraid to vote for tax cuts, afraid to not vote for tax cuts. >> we're going to get it done before the end of the year. >> in the words of one nbc news source, it would take an alien invasion to keep congress in session. >> you have to know democrats are very nerve out about elections coming up quick. >> democrats backed into a tax corner with the countdown to elections. >> incumbents are fighting for their political lives. >> democrats have no choice but to defend success in the face of republican obstruction. >> what i'm seeing out of the republican leadership over the last several years has been a set of policies that are just >> that's why we cut tax credits eight times. >> we want to extend tax credits up to people up to $250,000 of income. that would cover 98% of the american people. they say, no, we won't do that. >> no. the problem is you all are refusing to support an extension of the middle class tax cuts and holding those hostage. >> democrats now heading home to 35 days of campaigning to save the house and senate. >> we have to show up and make our case and focus on the differences not personalities. >> good evening from new york. i'm lawrence o'donnell. my first guest of the night, distinguished gentleman from delaware, vice president joe biden. we taped our interview earlier tonight. mr. vice president, thanks for joining us tonight. >> i'm happy to be with you. >> at the u.n. last week, president obama asked the israelis to extend the freeze on west bank construction but they allowed the freeze to expire at midnight last night. the west bank settlers today have been celebrating, some refusing to build. should netanyahu extend the freeze on the build and if he doesn't are the peace talks doomed? >> i don't think the peace talks are doomed. it's a politically difficult situation where both mr. abbas as well as prime minister netanyahu. the good news is the talks have not ended. you have abbas saying -- president abbas saying he would take under consideration what the next move would be. you have netanyahu saying he wants to continue the talks. george mechel is headed to the region as i speak. we still hope there will be a way to bridge this divide to keep the talks going. >> as we all know bob woodward has a hot "inside the white house" book. i want to go back to the first, "the promise." in that book you tell the president not to do health care in the first two years. you urged him instead to concentrate on the economy and jobs. if the president had followed your advice you were giving him at that time, what would the unemployment numbers look like now and where would the democrats be in the congressional campaign? >> look, lawrence, i'm not going to confirm anything i've said to the president privately. because it is that. hopefully he listens to it because i give it to him, that's why i didn't do it on the air. the president did something nobody has been able to do since teddy roosevelt, deliver a health care change, which is now beginning to roll out. one of the positive things about the health care of the president, it is going to drive down the long-term debt by $110 billion in the next five years and a trillion after that, the following 10. i think the president deserves remarkable credit for such a monumental peace of legislation. >> as everyone knows the economy is always the most important factor in national elections. unemployment today is running almost 50% higher than in 1994 when the democrats last lost control of both the house and the senate. is that what you meant when you said today if we make this referendum on the current state of affairs we lose? >> yes, because, look, people are angry. people are upset. people are like the kitchen table i grew up around. when there was a recession and unemployment, the people sitting around that table, the adults, the adults, my dad, they were afraid they were going to lose their job. they were angry. they have a right to be angry. they are focusing on us. if it's a referendum of the state of the nation we're in trouble but it's a choice. all elections are a choice. the choice between what the republicans are offering as pete sessions, congressman, a good guy, smart guy said, when asked if republicans took control of the house, what would they do, he said, we'd go back to the same exact agenda. we have to make it clear what we've done and what we're offering to do, planning to do from here and what they have done to get us in this mess and what they are offering. that is not a choice -- that's not a referendum, that's a choice. if we do that, we're going to be just fine. >> mr. vice president, the democrat's tax position is to allow the current tax rates, bush tax rates, to stay in place for everyone except the top brackets. if that's a winning political position, why shouldn't the democrats in the house and the senate vote on it now before the election. >> look, i'm not sitting in the senate any longer doing it day to day. the leader of the house and leader of the senate have made their own judgments about everything from filibusters to tactical moon ufrs the other side would take. the important thing is we accomplish what we're setting out to do, give middle class taxpayers a tax brachlt by teak. by the way, everyone would get the tax break, the same they got up to $250,000. $700 billion the republicans want to spend continuing the tax breaks for the very wealthy, $360 billion of that goes to 120,000 families that have an average income of $8.3 million. they are good people. but what are they going to do with $310,000 tax break they can't do with the $8 million they have. whereas the tax break for a family of four making $50,000 is $2100. a family of four making $100,000 is $4100. that's the difference between making your car payment, your car insurance, keeping your kid in college, being able to pay your bills. what we want to do is we want to give middle class taxpayers the money to be able to go out and do the things they need to do, generate economic growth in this economy. we want to take the $700 million and pay down the debt. and our republican friends, i find them kind of fascinating. they keep lecturing us about the debt they created, now they are talking about wanting to extend a tax cut that cost $700 million for the wealthiest among us and they keep paying for it. >> the republicans seem to have their own sarah palin in christine o'donnell. you're the only democrat alive that's beaten both of them in elections. what do you have to teach democrats about how to stop the palin -- no relation on o'donnell, palin-o'donnell phenomenon. >> take them seriously. treat them with respect. debate their ideas. don't get diverted by silly things they may or may not have said that have nothing to do with policy. what we should be doing, the democrats, is focusing on what they are offering and those who agree with them, and what they are against and compare it to what we are for and what we're against. the truth of the matter is, when we do that, we'll do just fine. but lawrence, actually, i really think that the win in delaware, and i'm sorry to see a really first rate guy lose, although he would be a much tougher candidate, i suspect, the fact of the matter is it's a wakeup call, not just for republicans but for democrats. there's a lot of democrats who might have been thinking about doing exactly what a lot of republicans did. not show up and vote in the primary. this is a wakeup call to democrats. we have to show up and we have to make our case and focus on the differences, not their personalities. >> you sent out a fund-raising e-mail today saying, quote, republicans running now are not your grandfather's republican party. they are from the republican tea party. now, is there a risk in an e-mail like that, that it could stimulate more tea party energy than anti-tea party energy? >> look, a lot of the tea party folks are just normal -- they are all normal americans. but they are americans who are just angry and fed up. others are ideologically, from associate security, wanting to privatize it and other things. the fact of the matter is, what i really said was this is not even your father's republican party. these folks don't want to talk. these folks don't want to enter into a compromise. these folks don't want to come up with practical solutions. i know what they are against. what i don't know is what they are for. why are they against us trying to stimulate jobs by giving tax cuts to the middle class? why are they against us stimulating jobs by giving tax breaks to small businesses, which, in fact, are the ones that create the jobs? why don't they think it's important to develop alternative energy and all the jobs that would flow from those green jobs and encourage manufacturing to stay here in the united states? why is it they don't even support the president's proposal to continue to increase our investment in infrastructure, which would be necessary if we had full employment. i know what they are against. they are against all those things. i just don't know what they are for. >> today you said that the base, your base in the democratic party should, quote, stop whining. i'm going to give you an opportunity you used to have in the senate, mr. vice president, would you like to revise and extend your remarks on that one? >> yes. what i mean, there's some on the democratic base, not the core of it, that are angry because we didn't get every single thing they want. we've got a health care bill every day becomes more apparent how much it does for people in terms of businesses and cost and availability. because there was no public option, some of them are so angry they say we're not going to participate. they should stop that. these guys, if they win the other team, they should appeal health care. i want them to tell me why what we did wasn't an incredibly significant move that's progressive and helping people. the same way with a lot of other issues. it's time to focus. this is a choice. the president has done a remarkable job given the fact that you and i and a mutual friend, pat moynihan, when you were running his show and i was his colleague, a majority in the senate used to mean 51 votes. since we've gotten elected, barack obama and joe biden, there's a new majority in the senate, 60 votes. what the president has been able to do has been truly remarkable with the help of a democratic congress. and so those who don't -- didn't get everything they wanted, it's time to just buck up here, understand that we can make things better, continue to move forward, but not yield the playing field to those folks who are against everything that we stand for in terms of the initiatives we put forward. >> you know, i didn't think of myself as running pat moynihan's show, liz moynihan ran pat moynihan's show as you can remember. >> that's true. if she's listening, i send her my love and also their lovely daughter -- they are a great family. >> vice president joe biden with us on our premier of "the last word." we'll bring you more of my exclusive interview with the vice president at this hour including his reaction to the new bob woodward book "obama's wars." first i'm joined by keith olbermann and author of "pitchforks and torches." what do you make of his explanation of his "stop whining" comment he made earlier today. he's changed it to buck up. >> i had a long conversation with the vice president when he was still running for president i guess in early '07. we were talking about how to -- when to utilize anger on television or in the senate or in the platform somewhere. the basic and only advice i could give a professional public speaker was, think about the anger, use the earning on behalf of your constituents and not towards them. my impression from this was it was a little of the anger towards them being expressed. that's never a good thing. it's sort of -- the democratic, liberal bases have been somewhat responsible for the disconnect with the white house. but the white house has been responsible for it and it's little things like that that tell the tale. >> you don't get the feeling he and his staff are quite aware of what they have created online in terms of objections flowing. >> no. but it's a guess whether they have the right end of the telescope in their eyes when this happens. what you want to hear the vice president with his gift for getting angry and righteously angry is to say, on your behalf we're going to go out there and stop these people. it's like don't just sit there and whine and complain about it, join us as we go out and get them. then he gets to say both what he feels, which is kind of buck up, get in line, join the team again and also say this is the reason for it. we're going to be a little less tremulous. >> thanks for hanging around. we'll continue our conversation after the break. >>> comments from the democratic party base, the stop whining comments, joe biden's explanation to me of his stop whining comment from earlier today. the prompter going back and forth on me. just what i was expecting. we're not going to find the spot. let's see. what have we got here. let's do this. no, we're not. the prompter is lost on me. the house leadership doesn't know what to think about stephen colbert's testimony last week. nancy pelosi was glad he testified. steny hoyer thought it was embarrassing, the topic of tonight's rewrite. also ahead, "saturday night live" is ahead and jumping right into the midterm elections. the season premier turns its sights on christine, no relation, o'donnell. keith, live television is the only place mistakes can happen. >> you asked for it. >> we're going to be right back on "the last word." maybe you want to provide meals for the needy. or maybe you want to help when the unexpected happens. whatever you want to do, members project from american express can help you take the first step. vote, volunteer, or donate for the causes you believe in at membersproject.com. take charge of making a difference. >>> turning expiring bush tax cuts. for politics of it, i'll be joined again by keith olbermann. >>> nancy pelosi praised the testimony of stephen colbert, steny hoyer hated it. which side is joe biden on? 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is this about harry reid in nevada? is that the idea behind it? because obviously the work of miss angle there has put mr. reid back into the race when he didn't have a chance when he was facing the chicken lady. he can win that and go back to his seat if he doesn't make a major mistake. what my worry is this decision has been made to protect a couple of senators with the expectation, don't worry, the polling shows voters understand we're with them on this issue even though we do not presently have the guts to even try it in the fashion that nancy pelosi is going w on the other hand, if the house is willing to go and try this thing, especially with suspension and go for the three-quarters vote, there is something at least symbolic, there is a willingness to show off the new automobile and see if you can actually drive it around the block or if it's made out of wood. >> at least the house members would have a vote. this is my position i voted on. >> democrats who were seeking seats held by republican members could say they voted against this. this is what they would mean to you. that's $300 you do not have because of this guy. get them out. the assumption here, we've gotten so technical, as you point out, you know too much. years ago at the academy awards of all places, i asked kevin costner about doing this seven-hour pregame show as they were talking about for the super bowls. he said we know too much what we know about. he came down after this yogi berra quote. he said would you take that off, i don't want to sound like yogi. not just you, the speaker, steny hoyer, everybody watching knows too much about the political strategy to base a decision about what's right, what's wrong, what's going to get across to the nation, what is the correct point of view for the country. what separates a serious democratic party that has done incremental good in the last year and a half from a bunch of people who haven't been outside their own homes before who are running as this republican tea party. the thing that separates them is some courage, which clearly whether it's courage or stupidity, the tea party has that in large doses. they will go out and do anything, say anything, posit anything. we see a defensive game played all the time by the democrats. there has to be a larger issue than individual mechanics of each race, there has to be a spiritual thing, if you forgive the use of the term, about the party, left, right, center has to get enthusiastic about something. it all dove tails back to your conversation with the president. the whining would stop if the voting increased, i think. >> the senators that i've talked to who were in the caucus room when this decision was made in the senate all tell me this was made by the senators running for re-election by and for them. everyone else deferred to them. that's kind of traditionally the way things work in the senate. harry reid is one of them. defensive is the word, keith. you mentioned it. democrats in the senate are always defensive on taxes. if they can avoid a tax debate with republicans in an election season, they will do that. as i understand it, they made this decision on the basis of what the senators running for re-election wanted to do. >> i do defer to their professional expertise as i defer to yours on this particular topic, it seems you have to take a little bit of a risk. otherwise, what's the point? i may agree if i'm in nevada, i may agree with harry reid's point of view, agree with him he should play it politically close to the vest, on the other hand i might say, you don't have the courage. i'll take six years of this idiot and come back to you later. >> this is why i say i don't know. in the beltway dictates one thing. what's happening with this wildfire with the tea party there's something loose in the voting population we don't understand. it's a very tough call to say which way to go on this one. keith olbermann, thank you very much for joining me. the book is "pitch forks and torches" available for reorder. countdown in its new air time, 11:00 p.m. eastern immediately following "the last word." thank you for starting me on this show. >> you're welcome. chemo them there at 11:00. >>> nancy pelosi and steny hoyer on the opposite side over the recent appear ons of stephen colbert. i'll ask the vice president to settle the dispute. he'll also give his first public reaction to bob woodward's insider look at the obama white house. ben and his family live here, too. ben's a re/max agent, and he's a big part of this community. there are lots of reasons why re/max agents average more sales than other agents. experience, certainly. but maybe it's also because they care about the markets they serve and the neighbors who rely on them. nobody sells more real estate than re/max. visit remax.com today. but basically, i'm a runner. last year. 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>> i haven't. but i know a widely published partial quote from bob's book about what i said about dick holbrooke. look, it might shock you that in a discussion they might take about dick's ego like they might talk about me, too. he should have the job. this one of the most talented diplomats we've had in 30 years. he's been my friend for 35 years. i think he's the right guy for the job. richard knows that. >> just for the audience's sake you said he was egotistical. most would agree it's an accurate adjective to use. >> most would agree with the second part of my sentence, he's the right man for the job, one of the most talented diplomats we've had in a generation. >> i want to read a sentence the president is quoted by bob woodward as saying. we can absorb a terrorist attack. we'll do everything we can to prevent it. even 9/11, the biggest attack that ever took place on our soil. we absorbed it and we are stronger. how did 9/11 make us stronger? >> it made us strong er by demonstrating to the entire world there is nothing, nothing, nothing that can shake our conviction of everyone under the constitution has equal rights. we have not gone underground. we have not turned to repressive measures. we are the same open, strong, vibrant society that the rest of the world wants to emulate. so that's the reason they took the shot at us. they took the shot at us to try to prove to the world that we weren't who we advertised ourselves to be and we are. the rest of the world has looked at that. they looked at the election of barack obama and seen that the american people mean what they say. we do think all people are created equal. the rest of the world, and the islamic world is figuring out, we have mosques in los angeles bigger than mosques in most countries in the arab world. we are a society that reaches out, embraces people and is stronger because of it. that's what i think the president meant by saying we were stronger for it. they tried to deal us a body below. it was horrible for the 3,000 people that lost loved ones. my heart goes out to them. the fact of the matter is, in terms of our national stability, our economic power and strength, our military capacity, it was a glancing blow. >>> mr. vice president, hamid karzai is presented in the book as being a diagnosed manic depressive. general petraeus refers to him in one meeting as running basically a criminal syndicate in his government. ambassador eikenberry is quoted as telling you he's off his meds. how can we have a successful exit strategy as the obama plan calls for in july 2011 if the strategy involves leaving afghanistan to the whims of hamid karzai? >> hamid karzai has long since then decided that his interest and the interest of his country lie in cooperating with us and sort of righting his ship. the fact of the matter is whether it's corruption or training of afghan security forces or integration of and reconciliation with the taliban, president karzai is in a position now that faced with an incredibly difficult circumstance, i believe he's fully capable of stepping up to the plate and acting responsibly. it's a very difficult position he's in. but he must step up to the plate. we must train an afghan national security force, and he must take ownership of it. he must deal with the most virulent types of corruption, those types that, in fact, cause populations, villages, provinces to turn to the taliban for justice instead of corrupt officials, and he must deal with the larger pieces of corruption that exists within his society. and some of it is changes we have to make. we're making changes in contracting authority. general petraeus set forward billions of dollars rolling in that country, in a country that was the fourth poorest in the world and one that didn't have much infrastructure. we're making changes as well to make it easier to deal with that problem. hamid karzai must step up to the ball. i think he's capable of it. if he doesn't, his country will fail. if he does, it can succeed. >>> finally to the controversy that divided the democratic leadership in the house last week, the only thing that maybe could divide them, your friend stephen colbert. you and i are what he calls, what stephen colbert calls friends of the show. you did stephen colbert's show recently. stephen colbert invited to testify before an house immigration subsometime. he did that. nancy pelosi supported it. she thought it was great. steny hoyer said he thought it was an embarrassment. so, mr. vice president, who is right, pelosi or hoyer? you have to pick one. >> 36 years in the united states senate and i never got in the middle of a house fight among house members. i'm not going to do it now. look, one of the things that's going on is this march on washington that stephen colbert and jon stewart are putting together. it is all done with an overwhelming dose of humor and sarcasm. it is, i think, going to -- it's designed to make, quite frankly, a mockery of the position, extreme position of the other side. i'll let the house decide its own rules. i'll pretend i'm still a senator. it's against senate rules to comment on the conduct of events in the house. >> you're off the hook, mr. vice president. mr. vice president, thank you very much for making the time for us tonight. >> thank you. i wish you luck on the show and i hope you'll have me back. thank you. >>> coming up, more on the colbert capitol hill controversy. steny hoyer didn't like colbert's testimony. but what are the chances he actually watched it? steny hoyer's review of colbert needs a rewrite. my nasal allergies are ruining our camping trip. i know who works differently than many other allergy medications. hoo? 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"saturday night live" started its season with a lot to choose from. we'll talk to the writer of the show's opening sketch about christine -- no relation -- o'donnell. ♪ ♪ i was young and i was stupid ♪ i had just turned 17 ♪ a harmonica and a box guitar ♪ ♪ in a canvas-covered wagon stuffed... ♪ [ male announcer ] while the world's been waiting on the electric car, maybe the whole time, the electric car has been waiting for this... the wattstation from ge. it's going to change the way we get to where we all want to go. ♪ i didn't think much of it till i took it apart ♪ >>> tonight's rei didn't, the house judiciary subcommit on immigration, citizenship, refugees and border security and international law lives in obscurity attracting cameras to its hearings virtually impossible. even c-span's cameras are too busy covering much more important committees until stephen colbert was called to testify on friday with united farm workers president arturo rodriguez, founder of takeourjobs dokz whose purpose he described on the colbert report in july. >> it's inviting american citizens that want to work in the fields, they want to take those jobs, want to do agriculture work to do it. we put up a website, takeourjobs.org and inviting citizens throughout the united states to come if they believe workers are taking away their jobs. >> with 15 million unemployed americans desperately seeking work. >> how many people of everyone in america have taken you up on this. >> only three right now are actually working in the fields. >> three people. >> make that four. i'll do it. >> on friday, colbert testified about his experience in the fields. >> after working with these men and women, picking beans, packing corn, for hours on end side by side in the unforgiving sun, i have to say, and i do mean this sincerely, please don't make me do this again. it is really, really hard. for one thing when you're picking beans, you have to spend all day bending over. it turns out, and i did not know this, most soil is at ground level. if we can put a man on the moon, why can't we make the earth waist high. come on, where is the funding. >> colbert continued with his testimony in character, which though defended by nancy pelosi, who called it simply great, it provoked negative reactions from republicans and some democrats. >> i think his testimony was not appropriate. now, i think it was an embarrassment for mr. colbert more than the house. >> he was called by the democratic chair of the subcommittee. >> you asked me, chris, whether the testimony was appropriate. i think it was not appropriate. >> and he should not have been called? >> i don't know about whether he was called. what he had to say was not the way it should have been said. if he had a position on the issues, he should have given those issues. you asked my personal opinion. >> you regret it. >> i think it was inappropriate. >> had house majority leader steny hoyer watched all of stephen colbert's testimony, he would have seen history being made in colbert's unscripted answer to a question when he broke character publicly for the first time. >> i like talking about people who don't have any power. and this seems like one of the least powerful people in the united states are migrant workers who come and do our work but don't have any rights as a result. and yet we still invite them to come here and at the same time ask them to leave. that's an interesting contradiction to me. and you know, whatsoever you do for the least of my brothers, and these seem like the least of our brothers right now. a lot of people are least brothers right now because the economy is so hard. i don't want to take anyone's hardship away from them or diminish them or anything like that. but migrant workers suffer and have no rights. >> if congressman hoyer had seen that part of stephen colbert's testimony, then he should have issued a statement something like this -- i want to commend stephen colbert for his moving description of the plight of migrant workers in this country. all too often these hardworking people are overlooked, even though we all enjoy the fruits of their labor. to have someone of mr. colbert's stature and influence speak out on behalf of blah, blah, blah, blah. if congressman hoyer can find a more eloquent statement on the condition of migrant workers in the transcripts of any of that subcommittee's hearings, i will read those statements in their entirety on this show. >>> no matter how her senate campaign turns out sat night live has immort talized christine o'donnell. looks like snl might be finding more skeletons in her closet. ig. you never take an upgrade for granted. and you rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. and go. you can even take a full-size or above. and still pay the mid-size price. i deserve this. 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"saturday night live's" version of this had to ask christine, is there anything else we need to know? >> you know, while i was masturbating, i remembered something else. >> really? >> i don't know. it's probably nothing. >> go ahead. >> in college, i burned somebody's house down. >> arson? >> yes, but not for money. for revenge. >> finally christine had to fly back to delaware to catch up with the democratic candidate. >> thanks for coming in. >> thanks for having me. >> okay. it's my pleasure. good seeing you guys. >> good luck. >> thanks. >> here now the writer of that opening sketch for the season premier, 33 years "saturday night live" veteran, senior statesman of snl, jim, thanks for being here. you understand you gave up a lot of your time to joe biden, so we only have a few minutes here. >> yeah, i know. >> i imagine when something like this story comes along, you are mandated to write it. you have no choice. there's nothing else you could have done in the political spot than this candidacy. >> didn't seem that way to me. this is the big story. but i'm happy to hear you think people knew about it. >> does that make it worse when there's this really obvious big and really funny, the real life version is really funny. isn't there a real challenge. everyone is expecting it. it somehow has to be funnier than the real christine o'donnell. >> especially if i don't have that much time. in this case i did have days and days and days to think. >> now, you could have given the part to amy poehler, i'm guessing you gave it to a regular cast member because you guys are all hoping christine o'donnell wins and this character stays in the show. >> i like taking care of people who are going to be around. i've done enough for amy over the years, god love her. >> what do you have coming up this week in week two? by the way, it wasn't the only controversy in the show. you had katy perry in the show. >> she's not controversial to me. >> banned from pbs but not the show. >> we love katy perry. >> doing a little mocking of her banning. >> i thought she was really good. i've never seen her do anything but her music. >> what have you got coming up this week? >> bob cranston and bruno mars. >> are you already thinking about the political stuff this week. >> i'm hoping when i get home, someone will say something weird. >> study that biden transcript. i don't think there's anything in there for you. i'm sorry. i did my best. i did everything i could do for you. >> i accept. >> jim downey, writer for "saturday night live," thanks very much for joining us tonight. >>> you can have the last word online at our blog, the last word@msnbc.com. tomorrow night, two candidates, governor charlie crist
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, doubting his afghanistan strategy. lawrence o'donnell will join me live. >>> and we'll talk about a new memoir that takes a hard look at race and her own family. my job is to listen to the needs and frustrations of the shrimpers and fishermen, hotel or restaurant workers who lost their jobs to the spill. i'm iris cross. bp has taken full responsibility for the clean up in the gulf and that includes keeping you informed. our job is to listen and find ways to help. that means working with communities. restoring the jobs, tourist beaches, and businesses impacted by the spill. we've paid over $400 million in claims and set up a $20 billion independently-run claims fund to cover lost income until people impacted can get back to work. and our efforts aren't coming at tax-payer expense. i know people are wondering-- now that the well is capped, is bp gonna meet its commitments? i was born in new orleans. my family still lives here. i'm gonna be here until we make this right. how's it work? ok, she's gas. he's constipation... why am i constipation? ...he's diarrhea. and our special fiber he
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i'm in the middle of a family feud. >> good evening from new york. i'm lawrence o'donnell. yesterday in new hampshire vice president joe biden told liberals unsatisfied with the progress of the obama administration to, quote, stop whining. later on this program, he changed his message to, buck up. which put him in perfect sync with president obama who in a "rolling stone" interview out today took his, quote, irresponsible base to task for their lack of enthusiasm and told them to, quote, buck up. the progressive blog firedoglake responded, really, dude? that's your message? i can't stand you, now go vote for me? and so the battle for the soul of the democratic party is joined with just five weeks to go before a possible republican takeover of congress. joining me now to discuss the obama interview that has driven today's news cycle is "rolling stone" executive editor eric bates who was in the room with the president during that interview and we're joined by one of the leaders of the people president obama is telling to buck up, adam green of the progressive change campaign committee.
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. >> no, really. lawrence o'donnell gets the last word here on msnbc. we'll have a preview of his big premier tonight straight ahead. >>> but first, actually, it was courtesy a little bit of governor bredeson. our "washington speak" today, green room. not what you saw. you saw matt lauer interview the president in the green room earlier. the green room on the first floor of the white house. white house historians say it's a favorite for the scale and distinctive decor. by the way, i love how with the white house, we come up with the complicated names. the red room. the blue-green. the green room. >> green room. there was a green-colored canvas and the first declaration of war signed in this room in 1812. full of facts now. if you have "washington speak" for us to clarify, send us an e-mail. [ rumbling ] [ air whooshing ] [ crunch! ] [ male announcer ] 11 grams of delicious whole grain. one mighty toasted crunch. new wheat thins crunch stix. the crunch is calling. you struggle to control your blood sugar. you exercise and eat right, but your blood sugar may still be high, and you n
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out here. i don't know how we would manage it really. don't like that idea. we can't afford andy harris' idea. i'm frank kratovil and i approve this message. >>> good morning. high alert. a failing levee prompts an evacuation in wisconsin. now hundreds are being hold it could be up to a week before they're allowed to return home. >>> bracing for impact. passengers get the scare of their lives as the landing gear malfunctions forcing pilots to make an emergency landing at new york's jfk airport. >> stay down! stay down! >> this morning the harrowing moments caught inside that plane. >>> and education nation, the most powerful country on earth, but our students rank 24th in math and 17th in science. what's wrong with the system? what can we do to give our children a better future? we're live at the white house to ask those questions of president barack obama "today," monday, ask those questions of president barack obama "today," monday, september 27, 2010. captions paid for by nbc-universal television >>> and good morning, everyone. welcome to "today" on this monday morning. i'm matt lauer live at the white house. ann curry is actually back in new york to kick off education nation over in the learning plaza, ann, good morning to you. >> good morning, matt and take a look at what we have done to the place. we have turned this entire area into a learning plaza and we're bringing together some 300 -- >> anne, thanks very much, every single american president says they want to become the education president. studies show that the situation over the years has actually gotten worse. 12th graders who were tested for reading levels in 2005 actually scored lower than 12th graders tested for reading in 1992. 70% of our students graduate. that means 1.3 million student who is should get a diploma don't, they drop out. and roughly half of all teachers leave the profession in the first five years of being in the profession. the problems facing our education system. the question of course is can we fix those problems? we're going to ask those questions of president barack obama in an exclusive, live, 30-minute interview coming up in our 8:00 half hour. >> and i'm sorry if you couldn't hear me earlier, we have turned this entire 30 rock area into a learning plaza. we have got lots of people coming out to speak, parents and teachers and government technology experts. also coming up from new york, we're going to be speaking to that megachurch pastor who's accused of luring young men into sexual relationships. >>> and also we're going to meet the man who survived a very scary crash, we have some pictures of that very scary crash when a guardrail sliced right through his suv. he survived, and he'll be talking to us about that. >>> first let's go back inside studio 1a. tamron hall has all the headlines. >>> we began with more flooding in parts of the midwest. a levee is leaking in portage, wisconsin, some people have been evacuated. officials say if more evacuations are needed residents will have to get out by boat. >>> "today"today a panel appoin president obama begins its investigation into the oil spill in the gulf of mexico and the administration's response to it. >>> hyundai is recalling more than 131,000 sonata sedans sold in the u.s. because of potential steering wheel problems. the recall involves sonatas built before september 10. >>> gas prices are holding steady, the average price for regular now $2.69 a gallon. >>> steve berk will become ceo of nbc universal. burke will replace the current ceo who will step down when the deal closes. >>> overseas markets are higher on wall street. erin burnett is on wall street. >> we're talking about the best september since 1939, we'll see if we can hold through the end of the week. and this week we'll hear about the government's plan to get out of the aig. taxpayers put $100 billion into aig. elsewhere tamron companies doing deals, you've got walmart buying the biggest retailer in south after karric africa. so today, confidence is our headline, back to you. >>> an effort to rescue 33 miners trapped in chile, heavy pipes that will be used to make a rescue tunnel arrived on sunday. it will hoist the men up one by one. >>> it is not 7:05, back to ann. >> we're going to go outside and find al >> it looks like the rain is going to be with us subleased off and on as we had through the monday. give yourself as much extra time as you can. >> and that's your latest weather. >>> all right, al, thank you very much, now to politics and countdown to the midterm election now about five weeks away. president obama will hit the campaign trail a little later today after our conversation in the 8:00 hour. >>> the president's going to try to recapture some of the campaign 2008 magic with a big rally on a college campus in wisconsin. this as congress decides to hold off on a very contentious vote over taxes. >> reporter: five weeks until election day, the president leaves "today" for a three-day campaign swing. while on the sunday shows it was clear the biggest fight in washington will likely not be resolved until after the midterm, whether to extend the bush tax cuts for the middle class only as the president wants, or for all taxpayers, even those with the highest income. >> we're absolutely going to get this done before the end of the year, we may well take it up before the midterms. >> reporter: the white house has been ratcheting up the pressure on the gop. >> they're going to have to explain to their constituents why they're holding up tax cuts for the middle class. >> the administration wants to extend the tax cuts for middle class families but not those making more than $250,000 a year, saying to give the wealthy tax breaks will add $700 billion to the deficit, but the republicans are holding out saying not even the highest paid taxpayers can afford a tax hike. >> without preventing these tax increases on the american people, it will be the most irresponsible thing that i have seen since i've been in washington, d.c. and i've been here a while. >> reporter: with five weeks to go, many analysts think democrats will lose control of the house this fall. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell was expressing optimism sunday. >> we're competitive in a lot of places. will we win them all? who knows. the delaware congress race was interesting. >> reporter: this time from october 1998, on the subject of evolution. >> you know what? evolution is a myth and even darwin himself -- >> evolution is a myth? have you ever looked at monkey? >> why aren't monkeys still evolving into humans? >> and in a sign of her growing national profile, o'donnell was parodied on "saturday night live" which had fun with her comments that she once dabbleded in witchcraft. >> and live from new york, it's saturday night! >> speaking of elections, this could be the week we hear whether white house chief of staff rahm emanuel is moving on to run for mayor of chicago. every indication he will the only question is when and who will replace him. >> savannah guthrie at the white house. >>> it's now ten minutes past the hour. >>> lawrence o'donnell is the host of "last word" with lawrence o'donnell. five weeks before the midterm election, just how much trouble is the democrats in? >> in 1994 when we had that huge shift and the democrats lost the house and the senate. at this point in the process, no one knew that that would happen, there were no polling indications that that would happen, no pundits predicted. this is the worst shape the democrats have ever been in. >> so the president's team is now putting him on college campuses in a series of appearances to too toy bring in those surge voters from 2008, would you characterize that as a hail mary pass. >> what it really is a move back to things that worked in the past. we have seen the president go into the town hall venue, didn' work so well, having people ask him questions, so now they're putting him back on stage in that celebrity mode. remember what obama's problem was? he was a celebrity, that's when he was the most popular, so now they're going to put him back in that giant arena with all these fans and try to re-create that feeling. >> some really good news for republicans, a pugh research poll found that 49% of independents are likely to vote for a republican. also at the same time last week, we had these young guns come out with their touted pledge to america, how effective do you think these two bits of news were in changing the spotlight? >> well, footnote on the young gun republicans, they range in age from 40 to 47. so a nice definition of a young gun. the young gun stuff that they're advancing, the policies that they're advancing, people aren't really hearing it, what's controlling this is the unemployment numbers. it was bad in 1994 when the democrats lost everything, it's 50% worse now, the economic conditions control this morning anything else. >> people say they don't want these unemployment numbers, they want to -- the incumbent is in trouble. >> this kind of economy creates a vote for change and unfortunately for the democrats, since they're in control, the word change appears on the ballot as the republicans in a two-party system. >> all this attention about christine o'donnell, we heard about this videotape that emerged over the weekend. >> we are not related if that's your question. i think kelly's related to her, maybe nora is, i don't know. >> what i want to know is, is the delaware seat as important as all the attention that she's being given? >> absolutely, because if the republicans could take the delaware seat, they could probably take the senate. and if this nomination by the republicans is what loses it for the republicans, i'm afraid the phrase senator o'donnell, which i have been trying to give my whole life. but you can tell "saturday night live" wants her to win because they gave the part to a regular cast member, that means they want to use them again and again and again. >> good luck to you on your broadcast. it's great to have you here this morning. and "last word with lawrence o'donnell" is on at 10:00 p.m. eastern time here on nbc. >>> a scarey scene at jfk airport over the weekend when the crew of a delta connection flight was forced to make an emergency landing after the landing gear on that plane failed to deploy properly. now some passengers aboard the plane actually used their cell phone cameras to capture the tense moments, tom costello covers aviation for us, tom, good morning to you. >> good morning, the crew was getting an awful lot of credit for keeping their cool and making it very clear what the passengers should do as they came in for a very dicey emergency landing without all the plane's landing gear. >> reporter: final harrowing moments as the pilot tells passengers to prepare for an emergency landing. >> brace forrism pact. >> reporter: and the warning from a deadly serious flight attendant. >> stay down! stay down! >> reporter: among the 60 passengers on board, chase and alsondra returning from a business trip. >> the flight attendant was yelling. >> stay down! stay down! >> reporter: delta connection, flight 4951 was flying from atlanta to new york's white planes airport when the plane's right landing gear refused to come down, realizing they may need a bigger airport, the pilots diverted to jfk and ask controllers there to clear a run way. >> the right gear is stuck up, the other two are down. >> would you prefer the 3-1 left or 3-1 right? >> when the landing gear is not coming down, you know you're going to have an accident for sure. the plane is going to swerve in the direction of the retracted gear. >> reporter: the delicate balancing act, putting the plane down on two of three landing gear. these images from a cell phone captured the sparking flying as the plane's wing dragged on the cement. once out of the plane safely, relief. and praise for the pilot who pulled it off. >> no complaints from me. >> reporter: and from one curious passenger, a question about his interrupted trip to white plains. >> do we still get frequent flier miles? >> reporter: delta praised the professionalism of a crew. these days getting a landing gear stuck is rather rare, though it is mechanical, you can get malfunctions, the ntsb will be investigating to see why the gear didn't come down in the first place. >> tom costello in washington, thank you very much. let's go back to new york and ann. >>> as we have been reporting this morning, this week nbc news is going to be taking an unprecedented look at the state of america's schools. we have got nbc's tom brokaw here to set all things off on learning plaza. >> i have been covering this subject for 40 years and i have done a lot of documentaries for nbc and for other outlets as well. there has never been a time in america when education is a more critical issue and understand the magnitude of this issue, you simply have to look at the numbers. >> reporter: today, american 15-year-olds rank 24th in math, 17th in science, tenth in literacy. more than a quarter of american students don't graduate from high school, those that do, only half are prepared for college. in just one generation, we have dropped from number one, to number 12 in college graduation rates. >> pretty stunning numbers. and as you have been just mentioning, 40 years, what have you seen in terms of what has changed? why are we in this situation. >> there's been a sea change in terms of attitude, everybody understands that president bush's 43, no child left behind, this president's race to the top, the silicon valley billionaires are getting deeply involved. they got to where they are because they were highly educated. they know they have to have an educated constituency to get workers. >> tom brokaw this morning. it's fantastic that you're going to be lending your perspective as we take a look at this all this week. >> we're going to have mark zuckerberg on later who founded facebook who gave $100,000 to newark. >> let's go back to the white house with matt lauer. >> all right, ann, thank you, and tom thank you as well. >>> politics took center stage this weekend during the season premier of "saturday night live," just in case you missed any of it, here are some highlights. >> now the latest polls have you trailing but that's because of the media's fixation on trivial things, like your talking about dabbling in witchcraft on bill maher's show. >> you guys, i was 16. >> can you think of anything at all from your past that might be problematic? >> no, nothing. >> this race is going to tighten up and when it does, it's going to be a real dogfight. >> please don't tell me about dogfights, i know all about dogfights. for your information, i used to run a business staging dogfights. >> we probably shouldn't be hearing this. >> exactly, you know what the people of delaware don't want to hear about it either, they want to hear about the future and taking back the country and restoring the founders' vision. things like that. >> this has gone on long enough. working in albany is just like watching "saturday night live." there are a lot of characters, it's funny for ten minutes and then you just want it to be over. >> finally on a serious note, nbc universal's ceo justify zucker announced that he will be stepping down this winter. and i just want to take a chance to express my -- >> they take no prisoners, do they? >> oh, well, it was very funny, i thought on saturday night. >> still ahead from here at the white house, our exclusive half-hour long interview with the president, he has said that the success of our students will determine success of this country in the 21st century. so how do we fix our schools? we'll talk about that with the president at 8:00, but first, this is "today" on nbc. >>> coming up, how early should you start your kids in school? i'll take you to a kindergarten class to take a look at some of the challenges facing students and their teachers. >>> and we'll take a look at whether lindsay lohan will go back into rehab. that's coming up after your local news. 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[ male announcer ] have a heart to heart with your doctor about your risk. and about lipitor. >> live, local, latebreaking. this is wbal-tv 11 news today in baltimore. >> good morning. i am stan stovall. here is a check on the morning commute with more on what rain will bring to the roadways. >> you will need some extra time this morning. an accident at the outer loop on loch raven. miles per hour approaching 95. harford road, overturned vehicle still clearing and glenarm. honeygo are and belair road, another accident to watch for. we are also dealing with heavy delays on the west side. eight miles per hour on the outer loop. that stretches from reisterstown road down to edmondson. you can see the delays out of the white marsh area. 97 in the southbound direction approaching general highway, another accident. let's give you a live view of traffic in the white marsh area. that is the pace of things. stop and go down to the 895 split. live view of traffic at 97. very heavy ride there. that is the latest on traffic pulse 11. >> the rain has tapered off. not as heavy as it was earlier this morning. still, light-to-moderate rain showers this morning. the will be the case as we had through the day today. you will see ring go through, and then our break. high temperatures may be sneaking into the low 60s. maybe a thunderstorm tomorrow. cried a cool weekend. -- dry but cool weekend. >> check the bottom of your screen for updated news and traffic information. back in 25 minutes with another live update. four years ago, bob ehrlich got fired as governor of maryland. for good reason. first, he protected tax loopholes for giant cable cable companies. then, he let utilities jack up our rates 72%. and for the last four years, he worked as a hired gun for big corporations, even a bank that took billions from a taxpayer funded bailout. ehrlich sides with corporate executives again and again and again tell bob ehrlich big banks and billionares don't need help. middle class marylanders do. >>> 7:30 now on a monday morning, it's the 27th day of september, 2010. you're looking at a live shot of the white house in washington, d.c. on what is a rainy morning here in washington. just a reminder, in 30 minutes we'll have a exclusive, live, half-hour interview with the president on the state of education in this country. i'm making my way into the green room, a little different than the green room we have in studio 1a. >> i hope you're not having to keep your voice down so you don't wake up the family. >> i think everybody's probably up and getting ready to go to school, even though we're disrupting things down here. we're going to look at the state of education in this country, many people feel it's in a crisis mode right now. and if you want to know what's happening inside schools, you've got to get inside classrooms. i'm going to start in just a couple of minutes by taking you to an innovative school up in boston where they think they have found a way to give kids a head start. >>> and also ahead this morning on a much different subject, a pastor of a georgia megachurch is speaking out for the first time about allegations that he used his position to seduce young men. >>> we're going to begin this half hour with actress lindsay lohan, she is reportedly planning to check herself back into rehab following friday's drama that she was ordered to jail without bail only to be freed a few hours later. >> reporter: for lindsay lohan, the trip from court to jail to rehab and back again is becoming a well worn and tired path. her fans, directors, the courts, everyone, it seems, wanting the h merry go round to stop. just weeks after getting out of rehab, lohan found herself back in court, she had nailed yet another drug test. before meeting the judge, a message on her twitter page read, substance abuse is a disease, which unfortunately doesn't go away overnight. the judge seemed hardly sympathetic. he ordered lohan locked up without bail for four weeks. >> his message was i don't care if you're a celebrity, you're going into jail and then we'll sort things out. >> reporter: but no sooner had she been cuffed and taken away, freedom cost lohan $300,000 and she has to wear that monitoring bracelet. any trust she had built up is gone. >> lohan spent 12 hours and ten minutes in custody. and while most people believe that jail is no place for treatment, freedom isn't making her any better either. >> treatment is for surrendering and admitting the fact that you can't trust yourself to always make the right decisions. >> reporter: and now her vicious circle continues, due in court for a probation hearing next month where the whole process starts all over again. for "today," lee cowan, nbc news, los angeles. and now let's get a check from al roker. >> we have got some moos from minnesota, and you've got your christmas ornaments on. let's check your weather and see what's happening, we'll show you, could this be nicole? we're watching the tropics, 30% chance of development, this thing right around the eastern caribbean, we are looking to see, it may actually work its way up into the gulf, across florida and then along the eastern seaboard. we'll see. week ahead, it's going to be wet in the eastern third of the country. for the midweek period, above normal in new england, much of the western thirds of the country, with more wet weather along the eastern seaboard, and then as we move toward the latter part of the week, more rain on the east coast, we have had a drought, so we could use the rain, above normal >> we are off to a wet start this morning. the rain will be with us off and on. there will be breaks in the precipitation, but >> and don't forget you can check your weather any time of the day or night, go to the weather channel on cable or weather.com online. >> all right, al, thanks. >>> now to the scandal that has rocked one of the country's biggest megachurches. eddie long vowed to fight allegations that he coerced young men into having sex with him. >> reporter: eddie long got a hero's welcome at sunday services though there was a mix of opinions about whether he should stay or go. he made it pretty clear which option he's taking. hand in hand sunday morning with his wife, accused of pressuring young male church members into sex, long told his megachurch of 25,000 members he isn't leaving them unless they're leaving him and he left little doubt about his future. >>> i am not the man that's being portrayed on the television. that's not me. that is not me. i am not a perfect man, but this statement i'm going to fight. >> reporter: after denying the allegations through an attorney last week, long broke his silence at the spate of lawsuits filed against him by former members. robinson was charged this year in connection with a burglary at long's church, he's yet to enter a plea. a fourth lawsuit was filed by a former member of the a satellite church in north carolina. >> by a counsel of my lawyer, they have advised me not to try this case in the media. i am not going to try this case in the media, it will be tried in the court of justice. and dealt with in the court of justice. and please understand, that's the only place i think i'll get justice. >> the men claim long who travels in first class style, rolls royces, private jets, proximities to president, showered them to jobs, attention as teenagers calling them spiritual sons after coaxing them into sex acts after reaching the age of maturity. >> when i heard the story and i saw how they acted and i saw how they said it and i did it all privately and individually, it's that gut feeling you know, and any jury is going to know they're telling the truth. >> terry williams said she was struck by what long didn't say. >> what's most important is the notion of a young person having their innocence taken away and being traumatized. whether he confesses to that or not, that's an issue that i think should be on the front burner. >> reporter: whatever the truth, long appears ready for the battle of his life. >> i feel like david against goliath. but i have got five rocks and i. >> reporter: prosecutors here in dekalb county, georgia say they do not pl-- >> ron mott, this morning, ron, thanks. >>> and coming up next, matt goes back to kindergarten to find out how to prepare our children for a lifetime of learning. and live at the white house for a candid discussion on the state of education in america. 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>> the first day of kindergarten in boston is filled with themes happening all over the country this month. excitement, a few tears, even by parents. what's different about this class is their age, most of these kindergarteners aren't five, they're four, and they're part of a growing trend to get children started on their educational journey early in life. here in boston they call it kindergarten 1 or k-1. most know it as pre-k. >> tracey griffith became principal at the elliott four years ago, it was so important to have pre-k in her school, she said she wouldn't take the job without it. >> we're fully immersing our 4-year-olds in a school day and getting together with the routines and rituals of being a student, being a learner, and starting earlier. >> see, i hear you saying fully immersing 4-year-olds and i start to get a little bit nervous. are you immersing these kids at the cost of fun? >> no, we're immersing them in fun. >> we have a special game "today," it's a guessing game, who knows who this is? >> spider-man! >> this is spider-man. who is this? >> big bird! >> even if the fun was at my experience. >> you might know it, this is a man. do you know what his name might be? >> maybe peanut butter? >> you think it's peanut butter? >> he's going to come and visit us. >> hi. how are you? >> peanut butter? >> one of the differences between pre-k and nursery school is the qualification of the teachers. at the elliott, pre-k teachers must have their masters degree. >> a hat? a heart, sure, where do you want it? you want it right here? >> you want a big heart or a little heart? >> the statistics are there to support the case for pre-k. student who is attended pre-k were 36% less likely to be held back in kindergarten, passed a literacy test at a 34% higher rate and were 34% less likely to repeat a grade later on. >> if you get a 4-year-old in the program who's not emotionally ready, do you suggest that that child not be here? >> no, i make sure that he's here. because if he's not ready, he needs to be here. >> it sounds a little like tough love? 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it's not really raging, man. uh, we were hoping for more raging ? well, you said write from the heart. yeah... don't do that. at ally, you'll love our online savings account. named the best of 2010 by money magazine. ally. do you love your bank ? >> live, local, latebreaking. this is wbal-tv 11 news today in baltimore. >> good morning. i am stan stovall. here is sarah caldwell and traffic pulse 11. >> we have a pretty nasty accident involving a vehicle fire at southbound '95. it is at chesapeake house, and all lanes are temporarily blocked. fire crews on the scene. there are delays forming in that direction. a fire truck on the right shoulder. traffic on 97, and all of these delays are associated with an accident. we will show you that there are other problems to watch for this hour. heavy delays on southbound 95 out of white marsh. in the red beyond the beltway. northeast outer loop from 95 towards the harrisburg expressway. another accident at ellis road and sinclair lane. -- belair road and sinclair lane. this backs of traffic on southbound 795. inner loop delays towards the j.f.x. this accident clearing on southbound 97. tony, over to you. >> the rain has tapered off a little bit. we still have the scattered light-to-moderate rain showers. we have periods of rain, but it will come through in waves. high temperatures on the lower end of the 70's. wednesday looks like a nice day. sunshine with a high near 74. sunshine with a high near 74. >> back four years ago, bob ehrlich got fired as governor of maryland. for good reason. first, he protected tax loopholes for giant cable cable companies. then, he let utilities jack up our rates 72%. and for the last four years, he worked as a hired gun for big corporations, even a bank that took billions from a taxpayer funded bailout. ehrlich sides with corporate executives again and again and again tell bob ehrlich big banks and billionares don't need help. middle class marylanders do. >>> from nbc, this is education nation. an interview with president barack obama live from the white house. here's matt lauer. >> and good morning, everyone. i'm matt lauer live at the white house on this monday morning, kicking off a week long initiative here on nbc universal, we're calling education nation and i thank you for watching on all the different networks of nbc universal. it's important that we give our kids a good education and yet it seems very difficult to plich. a recent poll found that 67% of you feel that the education system in this country right now is in crisis. the most important question of course is can we fix it. i'm joined now by the president of the united states barack obama, mr. president, thank you for your time. >> thank you for being this program, there's nothing more important than the issue we're talking about today. >> a third of our opportunities in this country continue graduate. a third aren't college ready when they get their high school diploma and 35 percent of 12th graders are proficient in reading. how did it happen? >> it's been a long time coming. historically, when we first set up the public school systems across the country, we were leaps and bounds ahead of the vast majority of the countries around the world, that's not true anymore. they're surpassing us in math and science. it ahappened over decades. but part of the challenge is to understand that how well we do economically, whether jobs are created here, high end jobs that support families and support the future of the american people is going to depend on whether or not we can do something about these schools. >> when it comes to crisis in education, it's not just a money thing, but it's a money thing. can we spend our way out of it? >> we can't spend our way out of it. when you look at the statistics, our per pupil spending has gone up in the last few years. ev they don't have up to date textbooks, they don't have computers in the classroom. so those who say money makes no difference are wrong, on the other hand, money without reform will not fix the problem. what we have got to do is combine a very vigorous reform agenda that increases standards, helps make sure that we have got the best possible teachers inside the classroom, make sure we're clearing away some of the democratic underbrush that's keeping kids are learning. >> one of the ways you want to accomplish that is with your initiative called race to the top. states will compete for money that goes into their education system at the state level if they bring about reform in their communities. while some are applauding it, some have criticized it because it's a competition, it's kind of a march madness surrounding this money when we should be funding all the states. >> the federal government provides assistance to all states under a formula system, especially to help poorer school districts so they can buy supplies, make sure they can hire supplemental reading instructors and so forth. so that hasn't changed. but that money because it was in a formula, everybody was getting it no matter what you did, wasn't really a catalyst for reform. so what we said is let's set aside a small portion about $4 billion and let's say you've got to compete for this and you've got to compete around things that reformers know make a difference. high standards, accountability, really training teachers effectively, making sure low performing schools are being boosted up. 34 states already have changed their laws, where previously all that stuff that was stuck in state legislators, now suddenly they're starting to make changes. it's probably the most powerful reform in a century. >> why $4 billion sounds like a lot, but it is a fraction, why not make more federal funding dependent on the kind of reforms you just talked about. >> what we want to do is make sure that we're still helping poor school districts that just don't have enough money. but it turns out that $4 billion, although a small fraction of the money that we spend on school is enough to get people's attention. i'm not going to lie to you, there's going to be resistance as we move forward, a lot of members of congress say to themselves, if my state loses the competition, i don't feel as good about this, even if i initiated reforms. >> how do the kids feel if their state didn't compete as well as another state, they're out of luck. >> that's why we want to make sure that every state is getting help from the federal government. there's no state that can't win this thing is because all they have to do is say we're going to take seriously those things like making sure you've got a terrific teacher in each classroom and making sure we have got high standards and accountability, every state can accomplish that it's just getting through the resistance that often times builds up in these states. >> there are some good and great teachers in this country, there are also some mediocre and poor teachers in this country. can real reform take place unless you identify those mediocre and poor teachers and remove them? and when i say remove them, i don't mean shuffle them from school to school or put them in a room, i mean fire them. >> first of all i think everybody who looked at this said the single most important ingredient inside the classroom is the quality of the teacher and there are some terrific teachers out there. my sister teaches and when you hear stories about how hard they work when they come home from school, they're still doing lesson plans, often times in tough schools serving as mentors. one of the things i want to do is lift up the teaching profession to honor the way it needs to be honored in our society. and by the way, when i travelled to china for example and i sit down with the mayor of shanghai and he talks about the fact that teaching is considered one of the most prestigious ones and a teacher is getting paid the same as an engineer, that, i think accounts for how well they're doing in terms of boosting their education system. having said that, what is absolutely true is that if we can't identify teachers who are sub par, give them the opportunity to get better, but if they don't get better at a certain point saying these teachers should not be in the classroom, if we don't do that, then we are doing a disservice to our kids and the school system has to be designed not for the adults, it's got to be designed for the children. >> there's a new documentary out there right now that's called waiting for superman. they're saying that teachers iss unions are set up to protect their members and protect those mediocre and bad teachers and getting in the way of real reform. is that a fair assessment in your opinion? >> here's what is true, oftentimes teachers unions are designed to make sure that their membership are protected against arbitrary firings, i am a strong supporter of a notion that a union can protect its members and help be part of the solution as opposed to part of the problem. what is also true is that sometimes that means they are resistant to change when things aren't working. to their credit, you have had a lot of unions who are now working with states on his reform plans that include things like charter schools, include things like pay for performance and higher standards and accountability for teachers and so we have seen states be able to work with teachers unions to bring about reform as opposed to resist them. >> if you could speak to the membership of the two most powerful teachers unions right now and tell them what they must do starting today to be a legitimate partner in reform. >> as president i can speak to them and what i have said to them is that we want to work with you, we're not interesting in imposing changes on you because the truth of the matter is that if teachers aren't feeling god about their profession, they're not going to do a good job in the classroom, but you can't defend a status quo in which a third of our kids are dropping out, you can't defend a status quo when you've got schools across the country that are dropout factories where more than half of the kids are dropping out. in those schools you've got to have radical change and radical change is something that's in the interest of the students and ultimately in the interest of teachers. the vast majority of teachers want to do a good job, they didn't go into teaching for the money, they went into teaching because they want to make a difference. we have got to identify teachers who are going well, teachers who are not doing well, we have got to give them the support and the training to do well. and if some teachers aren't doing a good job, they've got to go. >> you want to identify the l lowest 5% of schools and turn them over to charter schools. that could double the number of charter schools. are you worried that you would dilute some quality in charter schools? >> charter schools are not a panacea. one of the things when you're looking at school reform, it turns out there are no silver bullets here, reform is hard, it's systematic, it takes time, but we know that there are some charters who have figured out how to do a very good job in the lowest income schools with the kids who are two, three grade levels behind and yet they can achieve 95% graduation rates, boost reading scores and math scores very high. what we have got to do is to look at the success of these schools, find out how do we duplicate them and make sure that we are still holding charter schools accountable the same which we are all the schools. we shouldn't say just because a school is a charter they're an excellent school, because there are some poor performing charters. what i'm interested in and what my secretary of education is interested in is fosteringhese laboratories of excellence. if we lengthen the school day here, or we give them a little more home work there, or we're setting aside time for personal development for teachers here, or we're building a culture of excellence among kids at that school, that works, once we find out something works, we want to import that into every school not just charter schools. >> i think people are going to be talking about a documentary, they talk about the lack of choice that people, you mentioned charter schools in those very bad neighborhoods, the lack of choice that people in our poorest of neighborhoods have, if there's a low performing school and there's a charter school, the number of applicants for the few positions at that charter school can be enormous and so what happens by law is that the kids are put into a lottery and literally and figuratively they future is down to their name being drawn out of a hat. >> it's heart breaking and when you see these parents in the film, you are reminded that i don't care what people's income levels are, their stake in their kids, their wanting desperately to make sure their kids are able to succeed is so powerful and it's obviously difficult to watch to see these parent who is know that -- our goal is to make all schools high quality schools, make every classroom one where if a kid is showing up, taking the responsibility seriously, doing what they're supposed to do, they're going to be able to succeed, they're going to be able to read and have high math scores. what we now know is that there are schools that the work even in the toughest circumstances and once we know that, it's inexcusable that we don't make sure that every school is performing at that same level. >> we ask parents to give us some e-mail questions. we had bethany who wrote us, one of our biggest concerns in education is that parents are rarely held accountable for their children's education t blame for failing test scores always falls on the teacher. the responsibility of education should be shared by teachers, administrators and parents. why doesn't anyone ever hold parents accountable. >> there has not been a speech i have made on education over the last five years in which i haven't said the exact same thing. if the kid's coming home from school and the parents aren't checking to see if they do their home work or watch tv, that's going to be a problem. and that's by the way true here in this white house. malia and sasha are great kids and great students, but if you gave them a choice, they would be happy to sit in front of the tv all night long every night. at some point you have to say, your job right now, kid, is to learn. and i'm going to check with your teachers and i'm going to make sure that you're doing your home work and you're not doing anything else until you've done your home work and that kind of attitude, i think makes a huge difference at every level. one thing i want to point out is that there's no doubt that the schools in the toughest neighborhoods and the poorest neighborhoods are often times the ones that are poorest performing, they are in crisis. but one of the things that everybody needs to understand is that across the board, in middle class suburbs in schools that are considered actually pretty good, you are still seeing a decline in terms of math and science performance and one of the things that we are very excited about because we need to focus on math and science, my administration is announcing that we are going to specifically focus on training 10,000 new math and science teachers, we have got to boost performance in that area. we used to rank at the top, we are now 21st in science, 25th i
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lawrence o'donnell here on nbc. >>> here is the announcement for the highly anticipated grand finale winner of the "next top model" contest. >> it's you, kelsey. no. no. i'm so sorry about this. oh, my god. i don't know what to say. this is not -- this was a complete accident. i am so sorry. it's amanda. i am so sorry. it was fed to me wrong. >> how does that happen? the winner was a really good sport about it all. she gave a nod to the actual winner. >> of course it felt good to win for that 30 seconds. but, you know, amanda won fair and square with the votes. and i am here for the career. i want a modeling career, and you know, to be -- i feel like i have achieved that. >> don't you hate it when that happens, when it gets fed to you wrong? just hate that. >>> the recession may be over, but there is interesting new information about the way it has affected everyday life and marriage. >>> some days you cannot start the day without a cup of coffee. according to a new study by duncan donuts, nurses and physicians need their coffee most. hotel workers and designers architects and insura
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. then lawrence o'donnell reminded us there are tens of thousands just milling around the mall at any given time. >> so look, on a typical summer saturday on the mall, 80,000 is not a big deal. that is the flow-through traffic of tourists. >> glenn: so there you go. you have 380,000 right there before you even make a single phone call to a union member. now i say if you don't get at least one to 5 million people to show up for this event, you have to consider it an absolute failure so now what is the big rally all about? according to the group, it is going to promote family and individual responsibility. that is a good thing. here is the communication workers of america president larry cohen. >> bring your family. mobilize your community. this is a time to reach out. this is a time to say it's our country. >> glenn: okay. that's interesting, because here is what he said about 8-28. >> i ask you to bring your son or daughter. stand here. i know, i know that if you do your job, if you pledge to yourself that you will restore honor in our own life, we will leave freedom better than how w
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Sep 9, 2010 6:00am EDT
lawrence o'donnell show. no. >> you can't. o'donne o'donnell county. >> i thought about it for a tenth of a second. >> no. >> you know, there's a bit of a concept suggested in it. it is the last broadcast word on this network. >> it is the last word. >> the end of the news cycle so you've been -- some people following this story of the day since john heilemann talked about it at 6:00 a.m. and sampled other stuff. >> how do you make it different? >> do i goat finish my pitch of the show? >> how do you make it different from what john heilemann said? >> i'm thinking about not shaving. okay. there's that. >> willie? >> so far, so good. >> i like it. >> may just be a wardrobe thing. the difference. i don't know. >> i love him. >> lighting. >> i'll be watching. >> lighting, lighting. we'll talk. >> you know what they say about lighting. >> yeah. >> the difference between porn and art, lighting. seriously -- lighting's important. >> the show i have wanted to do and wanted to do would be called -- >> how the west was won? >> packages with lawrence o'donnell. and now the pros are laughing. a packag
MSNBC
Sep 10, 2010 6:00am EDT
"the last word," lawrence o'donnell. >> john knows when. >> 10:00 p.m. eastern. >> msnbc will have live programming for people coming home in l.a. to, you know, catch up on the day's news. >> that's terrific. >> one stop, they can catch up on everything that's happened. what? >> we have donald trump on the phone, as well, joining the conversation. >> oh. >> i have a little -- >> i cede my time then. >> i have an issue. with him. he and i are friends but i think this is a stunt. donny disagrees. have you read this letter? >> tell him what happened. >> here you go, lawrence. it is the controversial proposed islamic community center in new york city that now has a new bidder and that's donald trump on the phone with us right now. trump yesterday offered to buy the site because he says it would end a quote highly divisive situation. he wrote in part this, lawrence. please let this letter serve to represent my offer to purchase your site located at 45 park place, new york, new york, 10007 for what you paid plus 25%. now, the investor denied the offer because according to his lawyer it w
MSNBC
Sep 22, 2010 2:00pm EDT
lawrence o'donnell, host of "the last word" which premiers next monday on msnbc. thanks for joining me, lawrence. i got to talk to you here because as a daughter of a man who was a master sergeant in the army, when you hear in this book of the infighting, one shouldn't be surprised, but it is unnerving when you think about the lives. 100,000 lives that are over there fighting this war. >> having been in those rooms, both in the white house and the congress, in these kinds of governing meetings, for me, never about military issues. always about domestic policy. i'm actually encouraged by this. i want the decision-makers on war to be passionate about what they're working on, to feel very strongly about their positions. i mean, imagine if what we were reading was a group of undecideds who were very gentlemanly and polite to each other and not really coming at it with a perspective based on their own experience. you know, richard holbrooke delivers a strong perspective in here, which is different from the military perspective, and i'm glad that both of those are in the same room. i'm glad
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2010 9:00pm EDT
, rachel. >>> coming up on "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell, lawrence talks with levi johnston. yes, that levi next on this show, white supremacist football. and one crazy new york congressional election. and how. bake it, in the oven. well kraft corporation, i'm on to you. going after the grown ups and trying to muscle me out but i'm not going anywhere. [ male announcer ] kraft macaroni & cheese. you know you love it. you struggle to control your blood sugar. you exercise and eat right, but your blood sugar may still be high, and you need extra help. ask your doctor about onglyza, a once daily medicine used with diet and exercise to control high blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes. adding onglyza to your current oral medicine may help reduce after meal blood sugar spikes and may help reduce high morning blood sugar. [ male announcer ] onglyza should not be used to treat type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. tell your doctor if you have a history or risk of diabetic ketoacidosis. onglyza has not been studied with insulin. using onglyza with medicines such as sulfonyl
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Sep 24, 2010 6:00pm EDT
campaign season. is this a crazy thing do. >> that's the last word. lawrence o'donnell, jonathan allen of the politico. thanks so much. go statesman. that's "hardball." thanks for being with us. right notice time for "the ed show" with ed schultz. >>> good evening, americans and welcome to "the ed show." tonight, live from minneapolis, these stories on the table and hit my hot buttons at this hour. how about this, glenn beck's got a crush on republican governor chris christie, when christie's not bullying teachers he's trying to bully voters. i'll talk to a voter who sparred with christie in just a moment. >>> and speaking of beck, he's the one saying, violence is going to be coming from the left? well, a male sharron angle supporter tea partier reportedly punched a female harry reid supporter during a candidate forum last night. oh, yeah! radio talk show host heidi harris was there, and we'll get that story and get some rapid fire response. >>> and tea partier christine o'donnell, ben quail and demon sheep have one thing in common. details coming up in "the playbook" tonight and the c
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2010 9:00am EDT
lawrence o'donnell last night explained those whiner comments. >> there's some on the democratic base, not the core of it, that are angry because we didn't get every single thing they want. it's time to just buck up here, understand that we can make things better. continue to move forward. >> the president, meanwhile, on the road today. this evening he'll try to capture the old campaign magic at a college campus in wisconsin. his first stop, albuquerque, which is where we find mike viqueira traveling with the president this morning. mike, good morning. >> good morning, savannah. we are in the land of enchantment here. the president will hold another in a series of those backyard discussions he's come to love so much apparently according to aides. the line between politics and campaigning and policy and campaigning is never very clear, it's about to be obliterated over the course of the next two days by the president. he's going to, according to aides, really take off after the pledge to america, of course, unveiled last thursday by house republicans. today he's going to try to fo
MSNBC
Sep 29, 2010 9:00am EDT
himself a grilling last night. our own lawrence o'donnell peppered johnston with some of the very same questions that seem to stop sarah palin in her interview with katie couric back in 2008. >> what newspapers and magazines do you read regularly? >> i read "frontiersman" every once in a while. >> do you believe evolution should be taught as scientific principle or one of several theories? >> you're getting over my head here on some of these things. i don't know how to answer that one. >> i like an honest politician who is willing to say i don't know when he doesn't know. do you believe pakistan is -- "frontiersman" doesn't have much to say about that, right? >> oh, lawrence, what a meanie. at least he didn't pretend to know. >> that's true. whatever. i don't know y think levi still accomplished what he wanted to accomplish. he got on tv. >>> in other news, he's not tuning in to watch his former love on "dancing with the stars." that's okay, because aappareppa everyone else is. >>> coming up next, chris jansing. >> at 1:00, andrea mitchell reports. tim caine and joe klein. e. i'd like
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Sep 9, 2010 5:00pm EDT
. she's so busy. lawrence o'donnell and savannah guthr guthrie. stay with us. we'll have much more on this decision by pastor terry jones to cancel his koran burning under the premise they're getting the mosque to move. that's not what we're reporting. the mosque is not moving. but pastor terry jones is going to new york this saturday to preside over it not moving, apparently. you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. i have diabetes. i didn't miss a premium payment for 10 years. and i'm worried if i lose my job, i won't be able to afford insurance. when i graduated from college, i lost my health insurance. the minute i got sick, i lost my insurance. not anymore. not anymore. not anymore. america's healthcare reforms change lives for the better. to find out how it can help you, visit us at americasfairhealthcare.org it's not just fair, it's the law. look at all this stuff for coffee. oh there's tons. french presses, expresso tampers, filters. it can get really complicated. not nearly as complicated as shipping it, though. i mean shipping is a hassle. not with priority mail flat rate b
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Sep 28, 2010 2:00pm EDT
similar on "the lawrence o'donnell show." they may say give us something to believe in. >> that seems to be the disconnect here. you talk to democrats in washington privately they say a bunch of people sent us to washington to change the place, and maybe they don't see the change yet. they haven't seen these effects. so you see these examples all the time. but look at what the president is doing today. he's in madison. a little bit of a college town, so i've heard. >> that's the word on the street. >> joe biden is at penn state. they're having four or five surrogates all trying to do this. they are finally starting to engage african-americans. the third part of this coalition of surge voters the the youth. >> young people. >> now the question, i believe, posed in the first read as well, will the white house blame the base? if the midterms are a bust? >> no, i think each side has a built-in excuse. the base will say, you didn't give us anything to believe in. the white house will say, you guys are holding us to a ridiculous standard. and this bickering back and forth. the problem is, it's
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Sep 28, 2010 12:00pm EDT
bhining. then he talked to lawrence o'donnell on the last word. >> it's time to buck up here and understand we can make things better and continue to move forward. not yield the playing field to those folk who is are against everything that we stand for in terms of the initiatives we put forward. >> mike viquiera is in albuquerque, new mexico, traveling with the president. back yard chats of the new black. >> the president likes these venues and is in the land of enchantment to talk about education. he plans we are told to go after republicans and their pledge to america. of course republicans want to cut all funding back to 2008 levels and the administration and democrats said let's stop and look at the repercussions and law enforcement. from here he flies on to madison, wisconsin with a big rally to recapture the campaign magic consistent with the message he and joe biden gave yesterday. it's inexcusable if people sit this election out. this is not about just voting during presidential elections. you have to show commitment here. you have to have the big rally. a small crowd an
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Sep 30, 2010 11:00am EDT
president joe biden had to say to lawrence o'donnell on a show about motivating the base and where they stand. let's listen. >> there's some on the democratic base, not the core of it that are angry because we didn't get every single thing they want. it's time to just buck up here, understand that we can make things better, continue to move forward and not yield the playing field to those folks who are against everything that we stand for in terms of the initiatives that we put forward. >> the president said the same thing, it's time to buck up. really, dude, that's your message. i can't stand you, go vote for me. some interpreting it as a call to arms. they are insulted. >> they shouldn't be insulted they should be concerned what the results are infay don't engage. there is a clear choice here. i don't take offense to the straight talk coming from the vice president or the straight talk coming from the president. the president, i thought, hit it out of the park when he said if you disengage and don't vote and you weresent serious about change in the first place. we as americans can't e
MSNBC
Sep 9, 2010 7:00pm EDT
for nbc news. lawrence o'donnell is host of the last word. a great phrase for tonight's develop. you need a last word tonight. savannah guthrie covers the white house for nbc news and the co-host of the great show "the daily rundown." kerry, seeing as you're very close to the action here, how do you read the fact that this pastor standing to a local imam said they had a deal, within an hour it's clear they were wrong? >> it appears to me that the pastor did not dot his eyes and crossed his ts because it was very clear early on at that initial press conference that muhammad musry, the imam from central florida who was meeting with pastor jones did not say that we have spoken directly to and pastor jones says he was never there when a phone call was made. he said he feels he's been tricked, lied to, he's been hoodwinked. it was very clear from the first moments of that discussion, especially when imam muhammad musry from central florida began to speak that they were speaking a different language here, and then when we asked the pastor jones, okay, so you're not going to burn the korans
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